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Storyline for Fed in 2008 - the stakes

Just something to consider: if Federer wins the AO'08, he can tie Pete's slam record in the French with 14... And then it gets interesting - he can break that record in Wimbledon for the 15th slam, and at the same time break Borg's record he shares with a 6th straight title, and finally hold the grand slam.

I really think 2008 would be Federer's best time to pursue history. By the way, he can also have a shot at a Golden Slam with the Olympics to be held.

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Can't see it happening. The younger guys are coming up quicker

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He won't win the Golden Slam.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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Re: Storyline for Fed in 2008 - the stakes

He will get three slams next year for a total of 15. After that, he will start declining.

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Safin def. Djokovic 6-4, 7-6, 6-2
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Kudryavtseva def. Sharapova 6-2, 6-4
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Dancevic def. Nalbandian 6-4, 6-2, 6-4
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Tanasugarn def. Jankovic 6-3, 6-2
Radwanska def. Kuznetsova 6-4, 1-6, 7-5
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Re: Storyline for Fed in 2008 - the stakes

Federer's chances at of achieving the Golden Slam? 5%

Federer's chances of achieving a Grand Slam? 8%

Next year will be his LAST chance to achieve one of these two awesome feats.


I think he will win 2 Slams and I really hope one of them is Roland Garros.
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ok, granted that was wishful thinking... but it's possible even to the smallest probability...

but for me, all i want for fed is to win even just 1 french...
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He's already declining (from the Mount Everest). I see Rafa taking the French Open yet again. Novak should win one major. That leaves Roger with one or two - respectable, but some people will be disappointed.

Roger will be relying on his serving that much more. His groundies alone won't win him majors anymore. For this reason I think that he has no prayer of winning the French. At his peak in 2006 he came about as close as he could, which frankly was not close at all. His serve will be neutralized by the clay and his backhand will be exposed again. I actually doubt that he'll reach the final, but he might.

It's hard to predict the Aussie without knowing very much about the surface. I keep hearing that it's much like the one in New York. If that's the case I expect another Roger-Djoko showdown. I don't know what to make of Wimbledon - my gut feeling is that Roger is on the verge of losing there. Call it fate, but the five-setter against Nadal spelled the end of an era to me. It might be Nadal that takes it, or Djokovic, or maybe we will even see a Becker-like triumph from someone like Gulbis. Something new and unexpected has to happen and we often see this at Wimbledon.
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Fed should consider it an excellent year if he wins two slams next year. The young guns are catching up.
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Federer would do well to win 2 slams next year, even one slam actually. He isn't dictating from the baseline like he used to.

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Re: Storyline for Fed in 2008 - the stakes

Just get to 15 Slams as soon as possible.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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Yep rofe. If Federer wins 3 again then that would be simply astonishing. I want to believe it is probable but 2 seems far more realistic given the improvements of the young guns. A few more young guns will start to make more profound marks next year too, I'm sure.

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1 Slam? - 20%

2 Slams? - 50%

3 Slams? - 15%

4 Slams? - 8 %
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Just get to 15 Slams as soon as possible.
You just want him to have the record? Or hoping that will take away some fire from the belly so that a new era ensues? Or something else?
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Maybe I'm being blindly naive, but I find it remarkable how many people predict he will be caught by "the young guns." Only Nadal and Djokovic had a real impact on him, outside of miserable March/Rome. He just disposed of #3, #4, and #5 in straight sets. Against Davydenko and Djokovic, he was error-ridden, returning terribly, serving below par, and playing generally worse than we had seen only a week ago, in Capdeville, Lopez, Roddick, so I don't think it's a question of him being unable to beat opponents strongly. Blake was dumped in Cincy a few weeks ago, and Robredo, Gonzalez, and Lyjubicic are small threats at this points.

That disposes of most top 10+ threats, leaving potential threats like Gasquet, Murray, Baghdatis and Berdych, all of whom have shown only small amounts of consistent promise, and of whom I only see Murray being a realistic threat, provided he finds his form. In the 2007 AO, Federer didn't drop a set. In 2007 USO, he dropped only two sets, both to two huge servers. Only Djokovic and Davydenko were threats from the ground, as much as a straight set win can be considered a threat, so even allowing for Djokovic as a threat with perhaps Murray and a lucky Davydenko or Nadal, I don't see him having much difficulty making it back to the finals at AO or USO (granted, USO is a year away and hard to predict). Until Djokovic takes a non-tiebreak set from him, he still has to prove himself, especially when talking about the slams.

As for the French. I'm probably in the minority to think that Federer was closer in 2007 than 2006, but it seems contradictory to point to his diminishing talent, evidenced by close titles like Djokovic at USO and Nadal at Wimbledon, and then ignore that he had all but won the first two sets of RG this year, as a strong contrast to his one-set wonder against a then-dismal Nadal in '06 (who claimed strong improvement between the two titles). It may be seen as idealistic, but I still think the French is possible.

The addition of a coach is one more element supporting a strong showing for Federer in 2008. The last time he got a new coach was early 2005. From mid/late 2005 until early 2007, he dominated tennis like few others have, in what I would define as "peak-Fed," especially 2006. His forehand used to be a point-ender, but I think that it's a question of tactics, as opposed to form (which I think he's adjusted for clay), and so I think it will be interesting to see if another coach can have a similar "boosting" effect on him as Roche did, this time emphasizing the extremely aggressive play that he used in 2004-2005. If something like this works out, I see 2008 as another great year.

Then again, maybe I'm just hoping for too much of Everest.

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I cant believe the arrogance of people in here. You dont know him or his game and you suddenly predict the his future and when he will start too decline.

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You cant see into the futur this has been a bad year for roger and he still killing the tour. If he gets a coach he will get better

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