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Folks, we've got a problem.
I'm watching the French Open this morning (for me, on ESPN2 in New Jersey), and I can't belive what is on the screen. First of all, there's the ESPN graphic in the upper right hand corner. Slightly annoying, but its small, see through, and you tend not to notice it too much- OK I can live with that. Second of all, they've got that running text graphic at the bottom of the screen that we've all reluctantly come to accept on this channel and many others. Very annoying and hard to ignore, with the bright white words racing past just under the players and the baseline (we're talking about tennis remember). Now, that might never go away, it is a sports channel and other sport fans might need other scores. Whatever. Now, the last point I want to make and I hope you'll agree is an insult to tennis fans and viewers in general and an absolute perverse display of the stupid decision making going on in boardrooms. People, i'm talking about the big black score box they are currently placing in the upper left hand corner of our screens. It ain't small either. I gives the entire score, all sets and the currnet game. Sounds convenient doesn't it? Well, its not. Think about it. They do this during LIVE play! Why in Gods name can't they stick it in BETWEEN play during the replays and shots of the crowd, before commercials, and anything else. Not only that, but after the point, they take it OFF the screen during the replay and put it back on during live play!!! Does this make sense to anyone? If anything they've got it ass backwards. In one word its pathetic. Plus the broadcasters give the score during their commentary anyway! What happened to the nice little "15-30" game score before the serve and "total" game score before commercials or AFTER the point.
Ladies and Gentleman, if your like me you watch tennis because you want to do just that: WATCH tennis! Its not only ESPN, its happening on other stations as well during other tornaments. Where and when will it stop? When an entire half of the court is covered. A small corporate logo: ok, thats understandable, but the rest has got to go. I urge you, please, to email ESPN like I did and tell the "suits" who don't know a raquet from a frying pan to do the right thing and get that crap off of the LIVE play. Its too damn much. I'm a patient man, but not this patient. Please post your comments, but also contact these networks. I know its a pain and takes time, but if they don't hear it they won't do anything about it. Thanks!
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i agree, they copied eurosports way of scores. I think it's dumb, the set score goes horizontal? what's up with that
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yea..... ESPN's coverage is just horrible. I love that they showed Roger and then Clement/Santoro but now it's pushing EVERYTHING to taped matches. Venus and Serena are both finished with their matches and we'll get both of those in full and Martina is midway through her match too. I'm off to write them a nasty email, not that it'll do any good.

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i agree, they copied eurosports way of scores. I think it's dumb, the set score goes horizontal? what's up with that
I think they get the european feed and just put their logo on the scores. I'm not sure, but I think that is the way of it.
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I think we have a bigger problem with delay-live match than having those annoying pops on the screen.
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Oh yes, Eurosport always have live scores in the upper left corner! I got used to it!

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I think they get the european feed and just put their logo on the scores. I'm not sure, but I think that is the way of it.
no I'm pretty sure ESPN gets their own cameras. TTC uses European feed sometimes, I think, but the ESPN commentators are actually there and are on camera and stuff, plus they have the ShotSpot which has sponsors, etc. The new scoring has the ESPN logo on it so I'm blaming them Plus people yesterday said that they showed Lauren during Andy's match and ESPN did not (that I saw anyway).

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They do this during LIVE play! Why in Gods name can't they stick it in BETWEEN play during the replays and shots of the crowd, before commercials, and anything else. Not only that, but after the point, they take it OFF the screen during the replay and put it back on during live play!!! Does this make sense to anyone? If anything they've got it ass backwards. In one word its pathetic.
okay, let me say something about that.

1. First of all, I think that these little score boxes in the the upper left or right of the screen are the best invention of TV tennis broadcasts since long time. How often did I come home, tune in right in the middle of the match and I didn't know the overall score. But now I just have to take one glance at the score box and know immediately the score of the whole match.

2. I agree that they shouldn't take the score box away when showing replays (BTW, I notice that often during soccer broadcasts as well)

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Plus the broadcasters give the score during their commentary anyway! What happened to the nice little "15-30" game score before the serve and "total" game score before commercials or AFTER the point.
3. I'm glad that the nice little "15-30" before the serve doesn't pop up anymore. It depends on the TV station and on their graphics layout, but mostly it has disappeared and I'm glad about it because it was not informative enough. Furthermore, I don't appreciate it when the commentators give the score too often. Maybe sometimes, but not too often. I also don't like commentators who are speaking too much, I think they should also be quiet from time to time to let the viewers watch the game and make their own thoughts.
The "total game score" after a completed game or before the commercial breaks still exists, at least on Eurosport and on most other TV stations.

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OK Apparently ESPN is sharing feed with French TV, so at least I was right that it wasn't Eurosport

and I agree Neely, I kind of like the score always up in the corner. But as for commentators speaking too much, I suggest you never see an ESPN broadcast from the US

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I suggest you never see an ESPN broadcast from the US
tell me what I would see/hear

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Espn better show some of Coria's match tomorrow... back to dissing espn, two commentators i don't like are Drysdale and Carillo. Last year, Carillo said that she couldn't believe agassi would have any trouble with Coria, even though Coria was a hamburg champion!!! In fact, my fantasy tennis team is named carillo's dumb
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Neely, all they do is TALK TALK TALK.

I doubt ESPN will show much of Coria, his match is on first and will be over by the time the "live" tv coverage starts. Unless they screw it all up for the third day in a row and just have taped stuff all day

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Neely, all they do is TALK TALK TALK
OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, that would really piss me off

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lol yea it's pretty frustrating. Sometimes they're funny. I like Mary Carillo. but PMac and Mal Washington are just unbearable! I like the addition of Dick Enberg though, but they pretty much all talk too much, even the half-decent ones. I guess I'm just kinda used to it.

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i HATE US coverage
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