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#OK for players to TANK-sets to conserve energy [*eg.DJOKOVIC`timely Estoril Bagel`]?

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What do you think
Should we expect more from the top players???

Djokovic clearly tanked the 2nd set against Gasquet today~~> should this be acceptable

#Personally i have mixed feelings, afterall a long match on clay is obviously exhausting-> perhaps it`s reasonable under the circumstances...

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Re: OK for players to tank sets to conserve energy [*clear eg. with NOLE today`bagel`]!??

do you actually think before posting a thread

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Re: OK for players to tank sets to conserve energy [*clear eg. with NOLE today`bagel`]!??

why would Djokovic tank a set in a best of 3? why dont you think more?

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why would Djokovic tank a set in a best of 3? why dont you think more?

Simple>> Nole got broken in the 1st game of the 2nd set & decided that instead of battling through another hour long set [the 1st was a beauty] he`d rather save his energy for the deciding 3rd set
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Simple>> Nole got broken in the 1st game of the 2nd set & decided that instead of battling through another hour long set [the 1st was a beauty] he`d rather save his energy for the deciding 3rd set
tell that the Wayne Ferrera who was down 2-0 in sets and *5-1 in the 3rd vs Ljubicic at AO in 2002 and still won.

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Djoko knows Gasquet sucks so he just gave him a free set.

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Re: OK for players to tank sets to conserve energy [*eg. DJOKOVIC today`bagel 2nd set`]??

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Djokovic clearly tanked the 2nd set against Gasquet today~~> should this be acceptable

#Personally i have mixed feelings, afterall a long match on clay is obviously exhausting-> perhaps it`s reasonable under the circumstances...
I don't know what happened re: Djokovic/Gasquet as I have not been watching the match, let us for arguments sake say you are correct and indeed Djokovic tanked the second set.

If you were him and you were two breaks down at 4-0, would you bust a gut to get back in a set that you were likely going to lose instead of focus your energies on getting a solid start in the decider?

Think about it. If he was feeling tired, he therefore only has a certain amount of energy which he must conserve for opportune times, not blow his load in an attempt to lose a set 6-3 or 6-4 for the sake of some numpty who feels he should.

The players don't owe anything to anyone other than themselves, each player has to play to the way they feel is the best for them to give them the best chance to win. If Djokovic thought the set was gone and let it go, it's entirely up to him, the same for any other player.

He is not losing intentionally, he is letting something go which he feels is already lost in an attempt to focus on the larger battle ahead (ie. the deciding set).

Djokovic has just won another title, so he made the right decision, no?
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Re: OK for players to tank sets to conserve energy [*clear eg. with NOLE today`bagel`]!??

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tell that the Wayne Ferrera who was down 2-0 in sets and *5-1 in the 3rd vs Ljubicic at AO in 2002 and still won.

*Ferreira was a brave old fighter, though he didn`t make the most of his talent!!

*Djokovic is a different breed , this guy is born to win ~ be it pretty or ugly, basically he`s much smarter than the Sth African veteran you were referring to
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Simple>> Nole got broken in the 1st game of the 2nd set & decided that instead of battling through another hour long set [the 1st was a beauty] he`d rather save his energy for the deciding 3rd set
that's what i call good strategy

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Re: OK for players to tank sets to conserve energy [*eg. DJOKOVIC today`bagel 2nd set`]??

What do you expect him to do? He's not 100% fit...
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I don't know what happened re: Djokovic/Gasquet as I have not been watching the match, let us for arguments sake say you are correct and indeed Djokovic tanked the second set.

If you were him and you were two breaks down at 4-0, would you bust a gut to get back in a set that you were likely going to lose instead of focus your energies on getting a solid start in the decider?

Think about it. If he was feeling tired, he therefore only has a certain amount of energy which he must conserve for opportune times, not blow his load in an attempt to lose a set 6-3 or 6-4 for the sake of some numpty who feels he should.

The players don't owe anything to anyone other than themselves, each player has to play to the way they feel is the best for them to give them the best chance to win. If Djokovic thought the set was gone and let it go, it's entirely up to him, the same for any other player.

He is not losing intentionally, he is letting something go which he feels is already lost in an attempt to focus on the larger battle ahead (ie. the deciding set).

Djokovic has just won another title, so he made the right decision, no?


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