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2017 Managers Thread

Welcome to PAW Managers Thread 2017

If no manager takes a tournament until 1 day before the main draw is released, the tournament is cancelled, the players commited to this tournament are moved to the other(s) of the week (if there's any) and the circuit moves on.

PAW tournaments and managers (red means tournament can't be played)

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Week	Category	Start Date 	City		Surface Draw	Picks	Manager

1	250		Jan 02		Brisbane	H	28	13         jervisjames
	250		Jan 02		Doha		H	32	13	   slazlo
	250		Jan 02		Chennai		H	28	13	   Wojtek
2	250		Jan 09       	Sydney		H	28	13	   slazlo
	250		Jan 09		Auckland	H	28	13	   jervisjames
3	GS		Jan 16		Melbourne (AO)	H	128	26	   slazlo
4
5	250		Feb 06		Montpellier	IH	28	13	   jrm
	250		Feb 06		Quito 		CL	28	13	   Daniel_amr
	250		Feb 06		Sofia  	        IH	28	13	
6	500		Feb 13		Rotterdam	IH	32	13	   jrm
	250		Feb 13		Memphis 	IH	28	13	   kondrashov
	250		Feb 13		Buenos Aires	CL	32	13	   Daniel_amr
7	500		Feb 20		Rio de Janeiro	CL	32	13	   Daniel_amr
	250		Feb 20		Marseille	IH	28	13	   jrm
        250		Feb 20		Delray Beach	H	32	13	   slazlo
8	500		Feb 27		Dubai		H	32	13	   jervisjames
	500		Feb 27		Acapulco	H	32	13         jrm
	250		Feb 27		Săo Paulo	CL	28	13	 
10	1000		Mar 6		Indian Wells	H	96	19        rusca_djokerfan
11
12	1000		Mar 20		Miami		H	96	19	  slazlo
13

14	250		Apr 10		Casablanca	CL	28	13	         jrm
	250		Apr 10		Houston		CL	28	13	  rusca_djokerfan
15	1000		Apr 17		Monte-Carlo	CL	56	16	  jervisjames
16	500		Apr 24		Barcelona	CL	48	16	          slazlo
	250		Apr 24		Budapest	CL	28	13	          cancelled 
17	250		May 01		Estoril		CL	28	13	 jrm
	250		May 01		Istanbul	CL	28	13	         Daniel_amr
	250		May 01		Munich		CL	28	13	 

18	1000		May 08		Madrid		CL	56	16	slazlo
19	1000		May 15		Rome		CL	56	16	        slazlo 
20	250		May 22		Geneva	        CL	28	13	rusca_djokerfan
	250		May 22		Nice		CL	28	13	        jervisjames
21	GS		May 29		Paris (FO)	CL	128	26	        slazlo
22

23	250		Jun 12		’s-HertogenboschG	32	13	jervisjames
	250		Jun 12		Stuttgart	G	28	13	         rusca_djokerfan
24	500		Jun 19	        Halle		G	28	13	         Wojtek
	500		Jun 19        	London (Queens)	G	56	16	slazlo
25	250		Jun 26		Eastbourne      G	32	13	        jrm 
        250		Jun 26		Antalya         G	32	13	        slazlo  
26	GS		Jul 03		Wimbledon	G	128	26	jervisjames

28	500		Jul 17		Umag		CL	28	13	rusca_djokerfan
	250		Jul 17		Bĺstad		CL	28	13	jrm	
	250		Jul 17		Newport		G	32	13	
29	500		Jul 24		Hamburg	        CL	48	16	jrm
	250		Jul 24		Gstaad		CL	28	13	
	250		Jul 24		Atlanta		CL	28	13	rusca_djokerfan
30	500		Jul 31		Washington	H	48	16	jervisjames
	250		Jul 31		Kitzbühel	CL	28	13	jrm
	250		Jul 31		Los Cobos	H	28	13	
32	1000		Aug 07		Montreal	H	56	16	slazlo
33	1000		Aug 14		Cincinnati	H	56	16	slazlo
34	250		Aug 21		Winston-Salem	H	48	16	jervisjames
34	GS		Aug 28		NY (USOpen)	H	128	26	slazlo

35	250		Sep 18		Taipei		IH	28	13	        rusca_djokerfan
       250		Sep 18		Sankt Petersburg	IH	28	13	Wojtek
36	250		Sep 25		Chengdu	IH	28	13	         	jervisjames
	250		Sep 25		Shenzhen	IH	28	13	         jrm          
37	500		Oct 02		Beijing		H	32	13	 	slazlo
	500		Oct 02		Tokyo		H	32	13	  jrm   
38	1000		Oct 9		Shanghai	H	56	16	                	slazlo
42	250		Oct 16		Moscow		IH	28	13	
	250		Oct 16		Stockholm	IH	28	13	          jrm   
	250		Oct 16		Antwerp		IH	28	13	 
43	500		Oct 23		Vienna	IH	32	13	
	500		Oct 23		Basel		IH	32	13	        jrm   
44	1000		Oct 30		Paris		IH	48	16	
45
46	WTF		Nov 13		London		IH	8	7

PAW scoring points calculation
Code:
Formula:

PLAYER'S A ranking pts: A
PLAYER'S B ranking pts: B

Player's A PAW scoring pts: = SQRT (100*B / A) or 10*SQRT(B)/SQRT(A)
Player's B PAW scoring pts: = SQRT (100*A / B) or 10*SQRT(A)/SQRT(B)
(SQRT=square root)

EXAMPLE:

Madrid 2007 Final:

FEDERER, Roger vs NALBANDIAN, David

FEDERER, Roger rank pts: 7355
NALBANDIAN, David rank pts: 1195

FEDERER, Roger PAW Scoring pts = SQRT (100*1195/7355) = 4.03 = 4
NALBANDIAN, David PAW Scoring pts = SQRT (100*7355/1195) = 24.81 = 25

FEDERER, Roger vs NALBANDIAN, David ..........(4-25)

Note:

1. The ranking list to be used for PAW scoring points is the ranking at the time of the draw,
   normally it's the previous week's ranking (but in Indian Wells and Miami case 
   the draw comes out AFTER the new ranking is released)

2. Round off all scoring pts to the nearest integer, eg. 10.49 = 10 but 10.50 = 11.

3. In case of unranked player or a player who has less than 40 ranking pts, 
   he is allocated 40 pts for the calculation of PAW scoring points.

For beginning manager

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Basically, the manager has 2 main tasks:

1. Publishing the matches and scoring points. It's important that the scoring points are
 published as soon as possible, because the players take them in consideration when
 selecting their picks for the next day of play.
2. Calculating the scores for each player and publishing the league standings. This is
 usually done after each day of play (or after each round in 2-weeks tournaments). Although
 the timing of publishing the standings is not as important as the scoring points, it would
 be good do do it as soon as possible. Players like to know where they rank, especially in
 the latter stages (after the QF and SF) when players take the standing and the picks of
 other players in consideration.

Generally, the time required for the standings depend on the # of matches played, so the
 work load at the start of the week is the hardest and it gets lighter as the tournament
 progresses.

More matches and more players yield more work for the manager... that's why we suggest that
 people who aren't sure they have the time to do it to take smaller tournaments for a start. 

Of course, to be able to function as manager you must have access to the internet on every
 day of the tournament (from the time the main draw is done until the final). 
You should be aware what's going on in the tournament and be ready to make adjustments when
 necessary (for example: occasionally the draw is changed due to withdrawal so the matches
 and scoring points have to be changed).

Another important task is to check the validity of picks, in particular look after "late
 picks", i.e. picks that were posted after the match start, or may have started, and
 therefore should be marked as an "invalid pick" and not be counted. Note - Start times of
 all matches can be found on the xscores.com website (tennis section).

A manager should also know the fine details of the game rules, so it is suggested to read
 thoroughly post #1 in the "Official PAW Rules and FAQ's thread" (link to which should
 appear on the first message of the PAW tournament thread).
ZIP file includes simple template excel sheets for 13, 16, 26-picks paw and special Evita's Templates, it can be easy modified by inserting (or deleting) additional lines and columns.

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If we have 3 events 250 events first two taken by managers will be played. The same system for 500+250 weeks - 500 event will be played, 250 event the first taken by manager.
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Can the sheets be linked individually instead of one zip file?

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Can the sheets be linked individually instead of one zip file?
Are you fucking kidding me!??
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@Wojtek
@jrm
@kondrashov
@rusca_djokerfan

Here is the poll for the maximum number of tournaments. I appreciate you starting the thread Wojtek, but please don't be like purtov. The decision to have only 2 tournaments where the managers decide is the option you wanted, it was not what the players voted for.

I don't think this is fair or respects the players choice in a poll that was voted on.

POLL: Should we have a maximum number of tournaments each week in 2017?

Either, no change to last year or re-do the poll as you suggested with only 2 best options.

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Also, Managers please note the new commitments procedure. The thread for each tournament needs to be opened 2 weeks in advance so people can commit there.

This means week 1 needs to be opened on 19th December 2016 and week 2 on 26th December 2016. Australian open will need to be opened on 2nd January.
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I can manage Brisbane and I am also ok to do Chennai and Doha if no one else takes them by Sunday 18th Dec.

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I can't remember anyone else right off the top of my head. But @ any other manager
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Brisbane

Can the sheets be linked individually instead of one zip file?
Sorry but you can't run PAWs events as managers. Too many unfinished events.

But still you can play as player.
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I can manage Brisbane and I am also ok to do Chennai and Doha if no one else takes them by Sunday 18th Dec.

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I can't remember anyone else right off the top of my head. But @ any other manager
But we can have only 2 events per week? or maybe i'm wrong.
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But we can have only 2 events per week? or maybe i'm wrong.
See the poll Wojtek. (of course if we cannot get a manager for a tournament then it will need to be cancelled.)
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See the poll Wojtek. (of course if we cannot get a manager for a tournament then it will need to be cancelled.)
ok we will see how it will work in real life because it's new rule
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I'll have a late start:
QUito
Buenos Aires
Rio de Janeiro
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2013 RU: Salinas CH
2014 W: Mons CH; RU: Cordoba CH
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2016  RU: Leon CH

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I'll have a late start:
QUito
Buenos Aires
Rio de Janeiro
I will post on here closer to the week if I can manage anything, but based off my recent history, it is unlikely.
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Sorry but you can't run PAWs events as managers. Too many unfinished events.

But still you can play as player.
See my last response on why the last event wasn't finished.

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