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Suggestion: player that commits to tournament but fails to post a single prediction (and not giving the reason why he didn't play that particular week) should be banned of playing next scheduled tournament!

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17.6 What if a player posts picks without commitment or WC?

His picks are not valid until he asks for WC. Therefore posted picks become valid at the moment of question for a WC. So picks for matches played in the meantime are invalid.
This is ambiguous. In Houston I posted picks and then after the matches had been played I was informed I had forgotten to commit. I asked for a WC and was granted it. From the wording of the rule above, "Therefore posted picks become valid at the moment of question for a WC", when I asked for a WC, my picks should have been validated.

I understand that if it had said "Therefore posted picks become valid at the moment of question for a WC, as long as the matches have not already commenced" but it doesnt say this, it just says they become validated. therefore my picks in Houston should be valid as they were posted before the matches began and I now have a wildcard.

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"So picks for matches played in the meantime are invalid."
It seems to me like You have skipped this line, which is there to avoid the ambiguity.
You wrote:"...,as long as the matches have not already commenced" so You simply named the same part of the rule using other words.
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Frooty, The rule is quite clear to me that picks are only valid from the time that you posted your request for a WC, not the time of your original post which had listed your picks.

As Rob says, the wording 'So picks for matches played in the meantime are invalid' is included to ensure that any matches that had started before your WC request are invalid and cannot be counted.

For Example, if the above rule was not adopted then the following situation would be possible:-

Player X has not committed to play any PAW tournament on a particular week which has two PAW tournaments.
He then posts PAW's 1 to 8 in BOTH tournament threads before any matches have started.
He waits until the results of all matches are known and he then asks for a WC at the one tournament where he has scored the higher number of winning PAW picks.

You can understand that this situation cannot be allowed in the PAW game.
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Once the tournament that you have committed begins (keep reading for instructions of how to commit), go to the PAW thread located in that particular tournament forum (ie if it is Dubai, go to the Dubai tournament forum and then click the PAW Dubai thread). You may also send your picks by PM to the current PAW manager of that tournament.
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Is the manager obliged to post into the thread the picks that were received by PM before the picked match(es) start?

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You may also send your picks by PM to the current PAW manager of that tournament.
This note has been taken from TF, but I think it's not needed. Not only it's not needed but it can also cause problems. Picks should be posted in the tournament thread, and only in exceptional circumstances on the alternative forum www.pawforum.ovh.org or by PM.

I suggest to delete this sentense from the rules.

So refering to your question, manager is not obliged to post picks sent by pm before the match(es) start, but it would be simply good if he/she had done that.
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Thanks so much

Yes it would be good if there is a clarification on situations like that. I'll definitely post the picks before the match start so other players are aware of what other contenders have chosen.
Is there any decision on the "picking reverse pick" situation that has been discussed here? I have this and I accepted it http://www.menstennisforums.com/show...87#post9892587 Is it right?

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imo it's better to accept PMs for last pick from 2 or more contenders to the title than having "reversal pick" situation or things like that

edit: but I don't think there is any official decision about that
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You may also send your picks by PM to the current PAW manager of that tournament.
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This note has been taken from TF, but I think it's not needed. Not only it's not needed but it can also cause problems. Picks should be posted in the tournament thread, and only in exceptional circumstances on the alternative forum www.pawforum.ovh.org or by PM.

I suggest to delete this sentense from the rules.

What do you think?
The "fair final pick" case is a separate case and will be discussed later.
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I was written off from the PAW Ranking at the beginning of May 2010 (due to my absent for a whole year it seems... yes it's my mistake, and I'm sorry for that), but can I still play this games?
What should I do?
Just make a commitment at the commitment thread?
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You don't need to have ranking to play PAW. Just commit in the commitment thread which tournaments you want to play and you are already in.

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You don't need to have ranking to play PAW. Just commit in the commitment thread which tournaments you want to play and you are already in.

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Thank you sooo much

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I have noticed that the ranking points awarded for 56-draw Masters are the same as for 96-draw Masters. Is that correct? Is that how it should be or there is another table for 56-draw Masters?

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Thanks so much

Yes it would be good if there is a clarification on situations like that. I'll definitely post the picks before the match start so other players are aware of what other contenders have chosen.
Is there any decision on the "picking reverse pick" situation that has been discussed here? I have this and I accepted it http://www.menstennisforums.com/show...87#post9892587 Is it right?
I know I'm way late to the discussion on this but isn't the whole point of sending a pick by PM so other people close to you on the leaderboard, particularily when it's the top 2 people on the leaderboard, don't know what you're picking? Therefore avoiding the back and forth switching of picks? Also on that idea if one person wasn't going to be around at the start of the match, then the other would get the advantage when it comes to switching picks. Wouldn't the manager posting the pick on the thread totally defeat this purpose? Also, the reverse pick thing, which I saw in this form before I believe...

PAW13 same as "Posters name" pick

that shouldn't be allowed imo, in the rules it states that picks should be posted in a Player A over Player B format not anything else like what I posted above.

Anyway, just came across this and thought I'd give my 2 cents, it's probably way to late but I wanted to state my opinion anyway

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