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Re: Supplement to The Official PAW Rules

Added point 18. The Master Cup's Qualification Rules.
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Of course we cannot prove someone is a cheater, but we also cannot prove that someone isn't. Therefore there is nothing to be proved, the rules should be clear. Player who edited his PAW after the begining of the first match of the day should be considered a cheater.
Fortunately there aren't many such cases.
What do we do if a player edits before the start of the day's matches? do we accept the changes?

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What do we do if a player edits before the start of the day's matches? do we accept the changes?
I don't know, I suppose we could accept the changes but only if the pick was posted and edited the same day, and before the start of the first match of the day. Nevertheless such person should be warned not to do this again.
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Re: Supplement to The Official PAW Rules

Changed points 6 and 18,
added point 17.3.

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I don't know, I suppose we could accept the changes but only if the pick was posted and edited the same day, and before the start of the first match of the day. Nevertheless such person should be warned not to do this again.
I agree. It isn't that hard to quote your own original post and then make the needed changes - editing the original post shouldn't be regularly accepted, even if it is prior to play.

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Re: Supplement to The Official PAW Rules

When someone posts late pick, let's say like this:
PAW1: Przysiezny def Federer
PAW2: Bahrouzyan def Nadal
PAW3: Seppi def Anybody LATE

We don't accept that pick, but do we count that PAW3 or can player post another PAW3?


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When someone posts late pick, let's say like this:
PAW1: Przysiezny def Federer
PAW2: Bahrouzyan def Nadal
PAW3: Seppi def Anybody LATE

We don't accept that pick, but do we count that PAW3 or can player post another PAW3?
A pick that is posted after a match started is invalid and may be replaced.
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A pick that is posted after a match started is invalid and may be replaced.
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Re: Supplement to The Official PAW Rules

Added point 17.4. Switching tournament.
Added point 19. "The fair play rule".
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19. "The fair play rule".

From the quarterfinals, Player A at the lower position (in Ranking Table of given tournament) to Player B, can use the rule:
"I post pick: Ccccc over Ddddd
if Player A picks the same, reverse my pick to Ddddd over Ccccc".

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I disagree with point 17.4.

I think that once a player posts picks in one tournament, he can't play in another on the same week.

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Re: Supplement to The Official PAW Rules

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From the quarterfinals, Player A at the lower position (in Ranking Table of given tournament) to Player B, can use the rule:
Does "lower position" mean lower or higher ranking number?

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I disagree with point 17.4.

I think that once a player posts picks in one tournament, he can't play in another on the same week.
It does say exactly the same in point 17.4. what you have just written in here.

You can do that only if you don't have any picks posted at the moment of the beginning of the 1st match (and further) of the tournament from which you want to withdraw.

(and further) - means you not only can't have any picks at the moment of the beginning of the first match of the tournament but in later matches as well.

It seems clear to me but if it isn't just tell me which part you don't understand.
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Does "lower position" mean lower or higher ranking number?
Sorry but you might have been confused because of the mistake in the rule: letters A and B were swaped. The mistake has already been corrected.

From the quarterfinals, Player B at the lower position (in Ranking Table of given tournament) to Player A, can use the rule:
"I post pick: Ccccc over Ddddd
if Player A picks the same, reverse my pick to Ddddd over Ccccc".


So the "lower position" means lower ranking number (which also is a smaller number of points).
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Re: Supplement to The Official PAW Rules

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19. "The fair play rule".

From the quarterfinals, Player B at the lower position (in Ranking Table of given tournament) to Player A, can use the rule:
"I post pick: Ccccc over Ddddd
if Player A picks the same, reverse my pick to Ddddd over Ccccc".
I like the general idea behind the rule though I think the rule itself could be improved.
First, a player ranking lower isn't necessarily at a disadvantage. Say, you lead the tournament before the semis, have one pick left, and are 1 point ahead of the second ranked who has two picks left(imagine this had happened in Dubai with a quite easily to pick tournament winner so you can easily see who has the advantage here). So why not give everyone the choice of a conditional pick? Surely this can't hurt anyone as this can only be an advantage when you consider yourself actually ranking behind someone. Second, why not add the choice:
"I post pick: Ccccc over Ddddd
if Player A picks the same, cancel this pick".
or
"I post pick: Ccccc over Ddddd
if Player A picks the same, I pick Eeeee over Fffff"(a later match).
This is what I would've used today in the PAW Las Vegas where I chose Korolev but would've preferred picking Safin in the second semifinal if the tournament leader had wanted to pick Korolev as well.
Finally, you could allow something like "if both Player A and B pick the same, ..."

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