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Re: Cheering for Miami, trying to forget about Indian Wells...

Yeah, I agree with you, Jazz and Nova, I think we've talked his IW loss over by now. We are all aware of the hard time David is going through, and whatever the reasons may be, there's not much we can do for him, except going on cheering for him and hoping he'll find a way...and being conscious that it may take a longer while than we expected. But as some of you said, David can give us so much joy that he deserves our support and understanding, and if he never becomes a world's number one...who cares ??

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Yeah, I agree with you, Jazz and Nova, I think we've talked his IW loss over by now. We are all aware of the hard time David is going through, and whatever the reasons may be, there's not much we can do for him, except going on cheering for him and hoping he'll find a way...and being conscious that it may take a longer while than we expected. But as some of you said, David can give us so much joy that he deserves our support and understanding, and if he never becomes a world's number one...who cares ??
Me, because he has the skills for it.
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Re: Cheering for Miami, trying to forget about Indian Wells...

Right now, Connie, I don't think it's a priority for him. He needs to rest, get his head together, and come back when he's able.

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Right now, Connie, I don't think it's a priority for him. He needs to rest, get his head together, and come back when he's able.
I know Tiff, but I didn't mean that I wanted him to become world's number one now. I know very well that it's too much to ask right now. But I do think that he has everything to become n°1 and to win a Grand Slam. I will be disappointed when he wil not achieve this before the end of his carreer.
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Re: Cheering for Miami, trying to forget about Indian Wells...

yeah, I didn't mean that he wasn't able to become a world's number one, on the contrary, I think he's got all it takes, but then again, even if he never becomes one, that won't change a bit what I think of him. What is sure is that right now, he's got too much stuff to sort out in his head to even think of such an opportunity. But you know, sometimes, those things just improve by themselves, so we just have to give him time and, once more, all our support.

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Right now, Connie, I don't think it's a priority for him. He needs to rest, get his head together, and come back when he's able.
what???, this has turned into the biggest deal, but it's really...not ...he just lose one match against a player that was on fire, it doesn't mean he has to stop. it was just a bad day, everybody have them (not federer of course), but what is this all ''come back when he's able'' thing, that's a little bit too much for me....so...just leave it, this was supposed to be a ''cheering for miami'' thread, not ''ask him to dissapear in a hole''....
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Re: Cheering for Miami, trying to forget about Indian Wells...

Soda, it's clear that David is not up to the task. I'd personally rather see him rest and sort his issues out than see him languish on a tennis court and lose every opening round match he plays. If he continues down this path, his ranking will take a plunge. He can only go so far on his current results-and with no tournament wins in, gosh, how long....it won't be long before other players who have nothing to lose and lots to gain to catch him.

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Re: Cheering for Miami, trying to forget about Indian Wells...

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Well "hate" is a strong word...and Kiefer is a very talented player who just took more of the chances last night......David needs to knuckle down and think about what he really wants because he doesn't look happy out there and well if you are not happy doing something, then don't do it. We all know he has the talent to be one of the best in the world, lets face it you don't get to where he is without it, so I think he needs help and thats the job of all those people surrounding him. However, would any of you guys like to be the one to tell him what to do, I don't think so!!!


Hate Is a very strong word , indeed Sophia .

But that's how I was feeling at the time...but of course I don't hate him, I think everybody here knows that ...I was mad and I apolozige if It was too strong.

I just want him to get his shit together...and do what his heart tells him to do right now. Playing Miami or not...in the end only he can take that decison.

That's how I see it.
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Me, because he has the skills for it.
me too, Connie . maybe i am the one who cares his ranking most
He is the player who uses his brain to play tennis. In spite of that shitty serving, his skills are complete. Aggressive forehand, accurate backhand, sharp returning, good sense at net, and he can combine these into very good attacking-defending strategy

BUT, his weakness is too fatal. If he can't improve his serving to a stable level, it's impossible for him to be the NO.1, even not sure to get any title. I believe this is partly related to his lately mentality, coz i watched his match video of his several 2003 matches and 2004 AO (those matches are before his chaining injuries last year), his serving was much better than now.

This morning, i rushed over GM for some information of his match against Kiefer since i didn't watch that match, even not followed the score, they focused on his shitty serving again, and Federer Express (?) even said any club players could smack it back. Can you imagine any NO.1 candidate with such a serving? i know most of us dislike powerful big servers, but facing the fact is, if you are ready to be the NO.1 or get big title, good serving is the must equipment. of course, you can ignore that if you have very very good luck, but we all know david's luck is one of the most worst

I believe, david and his team know all the above, so, what we can do is only give them trust Think to the positive direction, it's very very difficult for a player with such shitty serving to fight into top10, which is already a great achievement and that means he still has very big space to improve

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yeah, I didn't mean that he wasn't able to become a world's number one, on the contrary, I think he's got all it takes, but then again, even if he never becomes one, that won't change a bit what I think of him. What is sure is that right now, he's got too much stuff to sort out in his head to even think of such an opportunity. But you know, sometimes, those things just improve by themselves, so we just have to give him time and, once more, all our support.
exactly, Ti
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Soda, it's clear that David is not up to the task. I'd personally rather see him rest and sort his issues out than see him languish on a tennis court and lose every opening round match he plays. If he continues down this path, his ranking will take a plunge. He can only go so far on his current results-and with no tournament wins in, gosh, how long....it won't be long before other players who have nothing to lose and lots to gain to catch him.
then how long do you suggest him to rest this time?
When he lost his Marseille and Rotterdam, he did rest for over a week. After playing awesome DC, he comes back to IW with a stunning start, then lost again. You think he should take a rest, just because you think he didn't win the match which he should win. If he beated Kiefer, and lost to Roger in QF by 1-6 3-6, would you still suggest him to take a rest?

Besides, if he rests, his ranking still will take a plunge. He can earn the points from Miami which he didn't play last year. We know David has a lot points to defend in clay season. If he can get some from these two TMS, will be less pressure for him in later months.
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Re: Cheering for Miami, trying to forget about Indian Wells...

He didn't gain much from IW-and he didn't play that last year either. The draw at Nasdaq isn't a given either. The way his form is going, he could lose to player X in the second round. That would definitely put pressure on him to defend his results from the clay court season.

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He didn't gain much from IW-and he didn't play that last year either. The draw at Nasdaq isn't a given either. The way his form is going, he could lose to player X in the second round. That would definitely put pressure on him to defend his results from the clay court season.
Remember his AO match against Ferrer? he played more than a pile of shit. But the following match beating Coria is one of his best matches. you know he is the one who always gives you unexpectation. And even if he beated Kiefer, do you think he will win the match against Roger?

The good thing is, Indian Wells and Miami are back to back. Now those hot ones Roger, Duck and Potato are still live and have to fight for IW. David can prepare for Miami much earlier than them. Just trust he is a smart guy, and can deal with this loss. If following is a small tourney, skipping maybe ok. But TMS, no. Tiff, give him trust, and hope Miami can offer a good draw for him.
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The other reason i think he should try in Miami is, the Miami court is more proper than IW for the current David. Court speed is somewhat like AO, bounce higher to fit David's hitting rhythm. Shitty serving will affect less, and his good returning can have more chance!

cheer for Miami!!
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The other reason i think he should try in Miami is, the Miami court is more proper than IW for the current David. Court speed is somewhat like AO, bounce higher to fit David's hitting rhythm. Shitty serving will affect less, and his good returning can have more chance!

cheer for Miami!!
This sounds really great Nova. ALso hope we have some less wind as at IW. And then he can give us probably some good matches.

I think we said enough about all of it, so I agree a 100% with you Nova, lets cheer for David in Miami
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Re: Cheering for Miami, trying to forget about Indian Wells...

Crys I've been reading your posts and you made a lot of great points, I think you just expressed what I've been thinking
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