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Fair enough, good that you admit to it. I don't mind your posts in general, I mean it is always interesting to read everyone's insights on matches. It's just that I think you read too much into things. I mean Nalbandian is easily capable of putting in a poor performance whether he was motivated or not and in the end it sounds a bit like the "Not many people can beat him when he tries" thing that we don't like here.
I am not a deluded to think that Nalbandian is THE best player in the world, but I do think he is among the ones with most god-given talent. Nor I think that when he really tries and plays his best he is unbeatable (you can see it from my posts about his bad match-ups, like Wawrinka in general or Almagro on clay in best of 3). Even when I do feel sometimes different about certain things, when I post I am trying to be objective to the max, although I can't deny that sometimes my judgment might be clouded a bit, for example after some huge disappointment, but that happens very very rarely because I try not to post while I am being still emotional about some match.
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I am not a deluded to think that Nalbandian is THE best player in the world, but I do think he is among the ones with most god-given talent. Nor I think that when he really tries and plays his best he is unbeatable (you can see it from my posts about his bad match-ups, like Wawrinka in general or Almagro on clay in best of 3). Even when I do feel sometimes different about certain things, when I post I am trying to be objective to the max, although I can't deny that sometimes my judgment might be clouded a bit, for example after some huge disappointment, but that happens very very rarely because I try not to post while I am being still emotional about some match.
I meant it to a lesser extent what your posts imply, I'm sure you don't overrate him that badly. I mean everyone knows he's inconsistent. I can't find my post anymore, but I think it was made before Monte Carlo and Barcelona. Anyway I accept your explanation and I think I've said pretty much what I've wanted to. I wouldn't mind discussing with you individual matches in the future here, I don't mind disagreeing with people and I consider it a good discussion as long as we listen to each other (or whether we all just write our own separate reports, whatever).
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As long as you don't insult him and don't call him "fat dave", you are welcome here.

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As long as you don't insult him and don't call him "fat dave", you are welcome here.
I really don't like that fat-fit parallel the others are using that much. Never even used the word fat in any of my post.
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I really don't like that fat-fit parallel the others are using that much. Never even used the word fat in any of my post.
okay, after all this i still haven't figured out what was the exact reason that brought you here. would you be so kind & enlighten me, please. thanks in advance.
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This place has turned into a fuckin' wasteland. We were doing fine until a certain interloper came along. Like Claudia asked, HeretiC, could you please state the reason you came here? We'd love to have your response.

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okay, after all this i still haven't figured out what was the exact reason that brought you here. would you be so kind & enlighten me, please. thanks in advance.
I did it couple of posts before but I won't mind doing it again. Main reason is that I realized that the best place to talk about players is in their adequate fan base place in MTF instead of in GM where you will be almost certainly crusified by many oportune posters who are not interested in talking tennis and are interested in starting a quarrel. Second was that I found my name in negative context and I was curious about the reasons for it.
If this is not the right place to talk about Nalbandian then plase tell me that I was wrong.

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This place has turned into a fuckin' wasteland. We were doing fine until a certain interloper came along. Like Claudia asked, HeretiC, could you please state the reason you came here? We'd love to have your response.
As I said before I have no intention to post anywhere where I am not welcomed, and you are trying to insult me all the time. I don't get it, did I do something wrong with posting here or did I insult someone?

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That's how I discovered that PMK (who I thought that he is a descent poster) called me a clown. I remembered that he was among the ones who accused me of starting the result threads before the matches ends, but after I recorded and posted the video, he never done that again, so I though that he realized that I am not lying.
Just remember I caught you out during the Andreev and Almagro match at Monte Carlo and I was proven right, that you started that thread too soon and you admitted it. You aren't the only one to have done it and I have caught them as well.

This is why I called you a clown, you could not wait for the match to be over, before starting a result thread of a match that I was watching and it was 2 minutes early before it was completed.

As for being a Nalbandian fan, yes do overrate him quite a bit.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Just remember I caught you out during the Andreev and Almagro match at Monte Carlo and I was proven right, that you started that thread too soon and you admitted it. You aren't the only one to have done it and I have caught them as well.

This is why I called you a clown, you could not wait for the match to be over, before starting a result thread of a match that I was watching and it was 2 minutes early before it was completed.

As for being a Nalbandian fan, yes do overrate him quite a bit.
You accused me of starting every thread before it ends. Of course that I admited that I started that thread prematurelly beacuse I've mistaken the MP ball for an out and thought that the match is over and I explained that (never denied it), but accusing me that I am doing it all the time was out of line. Acctually your accussations made me record that video to show that feeds are indeed lot faster then streams and regular TV's (not even mentioning SB, huge time difference). If admiting the only mistake that I made and defending the truth makes me clown then so be it.

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You accused me of starting every thread before it ends. Of course that I admited that I started that thread prematurelly beacuse I've mistaken the MP ball for an out and thought that the match is over and I explained that (never denied it), but accusing me that I do all the time was out of line. Acctually your accussations made me record that video to show that feeds are indeed lot faster then streams and regular TV's (not even mentioning SB, huge time difference). If admiting the only mistake that I made and defending the truth makes me clown that so be it.
Considering that I know about delays, especially since the umpire has to talk into a microphone, while pressing his key pad, when the set is done and that takes time for the message to come through.

It shouldn't happen, starting match threads before they are over, seems to be overeagerness at best. It has happened quite a lot and considering I do have access to these TV channels that show tennis at times. I know when it's been started before matches are done.

I'm not the only one to have accused you and if you have done it once, there is a chance it could happen again.

Come on 2 minutes before isn't funny.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Considering that I know about delays, especially since the umpire has to talk into a microphone, while pressing his key pad, when the set is done and that takes time for the message to come through.

It shouldn't happen, starting match threads before they are over, seems to be overeagerness at best. It has happened quite a lot and considering I do have access to these TV channels that show tennis at times. I know when it's been started before matches are done.

I'm not the only one to have accused you and if you have done it once, there is a chance it could happen again.

Come on 2 minutes before isn't funny.
It happened once cause I thought that the match is over(on MP for Andreev Almagro hit the ball and it looked wide but it caught the line) and not because I tend to start the threads before they are over, I don't like that either.
I am following the lot of channels that are showing tennis. And it depends from the tournament and the broadcaster. MC for example the stream on bet fair and bet365 was faster than any TV I've checked. And the stream was behind the AMS feed 2-3 sec. Hamburg was different story, the satellite feed was just a sec or so faster then stream, and the stream was just a bit sec faster then TV's. That happens because betting sites use the the stream directly from AMS feed. For other tournaments usually the stream is slower then TV's. But never ever happened that stream or TV's are faster or even remotely close to direct raw satellite stream (if there is one of course).
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It happened once cause I thought that the match is over(on MP for Andreev Almagro hit the ball and it looked wide but it caught the line) and not because I tend to start the threads before they are over, I don't like that either.
I am following the lot of channels that are showing tennis. And it depends from the tournament and the broadcaster. MC for example the stream on bet fair and bet365 was faster than any TV I've checked. And the stream was behind the AMS feed 2-3 sec. Hamburg was different story, the satellite feed was just a sec or so faster then stream, and the stream was just a bit sec faster then TV's. That happens because betting sites use the the stream directly from AMS feed. For other tournaments usually the stream is slower then TV's. But never ever happened that stream or TV's are faster or even remotely close to direct raw satellite stream (if there is one of course).
You keep destroying this thread, HeretiC.

You're even worse than Stephan.
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You keep destroying this thread, HeretiC.

You're even worse than Stephan.
For god sake I am answering on posts which are addressed to me. I should't doing that too?
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Well let's just close the discussion, he doesn't looks like a guy coming here to do any harm so let him post, no need to bring useless quarrels !

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Well let's just close the discussion, he doesn't looks like a guy coming here to do any harm so let him post, no need to bring useless quarrels !
Thanks, finally someone who is not trying start a quarrel.

P.S Back to the topic: which quarter do you think is the best for Nalbandian in RG draw ?
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