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Re: Houston Entry List/Fact Sheet (updated March 23, 2013)

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So does Almagro and Haas, who are in front of Monaco in the ranking.
And don't go into the Casablanca thread, or you'll be more appalled to find that Wawrinka getting a WC into a field that has 1 Top 30 players. Then again, you won't bcos Wawrinka is not really on your agenda.
Haas is a US citizen so he's basically playing a home event.

And how do you know Wawrinka asked for a wild card and wasn't simply offered one?

Monaco, on the other hand, is playing DC in Argentina this weekend and Monte Carlo the week after, playing Houston in between has only one explanation. I'll give you a clue: it starts with a v and it has wings.

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Re: Houston Entry List/Fact Sheet (updated March 23, 2013)

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Monaco, on the other hand, is playing DC in Argentina this weekend and Monte Carlo the week after, playing Houston in between has only one explanation. I'll give you a clue: it starts with a v and it has wings.



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Re: Houston Entry List/Fact Sheet (updated March 23, 2013)

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Haas is a US citizen so he's basically playing a home event.
So your definition of vulture isn't about a player entering a weaker-than-his-ranking field then? it's a player entering a weaker-than-his-ranking "non-home-event" field. Got it.

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And how do you know Wawrinka asked for a wild card and wasn't simply offered one?
I don't know, so I didn't say he asked for one. Reason I didn't say is because I did not think whether he asked for one or was forced to accept one (probably with money pointed to his head) is of any importance. The fact of the matter is that he is now in a event that has a significantly weak field, which I did not have problem with, and apparently so didn't you because your definition of vulture is a player entering a weaker-than-his-ranking field who has a surname of Monaco or Ferrer. Otherwise, I don't see you go around here criticizing Wawrinka, what gives? Is it only players who entered Houston who's not Americans (or Spanish since I don't see you criticizing Almagro either) are worthy of being called the word you hinted that started with a v? Casablanca is obviously no Houston.

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Monaco, on the other hand, is playing DC in Argentina this weekend and Monte Carlo the week after, playing Houston in between has only one explanation. I'll give you a clue: it starts with a v and it has wings.
Lucky that Almagro, Haas, Wawrinka's respective country teams are all out of DC, otherwise, they will be in the same boat as Monaco. We don't want that, oh no, we don't.
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Re: Houston Entry List/Fact Sheet (updated March 23, 2013)

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So your definition of vulture isn't about a player entering a weaker-than-his-ranking field then? it's a player entering a weaker-than-his-ranking "non-home-event" field. Got it.


I don't know, so I didn't say he asked for one. Reason I didn't say is because I did not think whether he asked for one or was forced to accept one (probably with money pointed to his head) is of any importance. The fact of the matter is that he is now in a event that has a significantly weak field, which I did not have problem with, and apparently so didn't you because your definition of vulture is a player entering a weaker-than-his-ranking field who has a surname of Monaco or Ferrer. Otherwise, I don't see you go around here criticizing Wawrinka, what gives? Is it only players who entered Houston who's not Americans (or Spanish since I don't see you criticizing Almagro either) are worthy of being called the word you hinted that started with a v? Casablanca is obviously no Houston.


Lucky that Almagro, Haas, Wawrinka's respective country teams are all out of DC, otherwise, they will be in the same boat as Monaco. We don't want that, oh no, we don't.
No. Being a home event, there's a reason to be playing there, it's no surprise that most players prefer home events. Besides, you can't be a vulture because of one tournament, it's something that requires consistently picking weak events. Haas actually went through Berdych, Kohli and Federer to win a 250 last year, he definitely doesn't have the habit of picking weak events.

Again, point me out other instances where Wawrinka played an event with such a depleted field. I picked up on Monaco, not because of this particular tournament alone, but because he often does it.

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Re: Houston Entry List/Fact Sheet (updated March 23, 2013)

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No. Being a home event, there's a reason to be playing there, it's no surprise that most players prefer home events. Besides, you can't be a vulture because of one tournament, it's something that requires consistently picking weak events. Haas actually went through Berdych, Kohli and Federer to win a 250 last year, he definitely doesn't have the habit of picking weak events.

Again, point me out other instances where Wawrinka played an event with such a depleted field. I picked up on Monaco, not because of this particular tournament alone, but because he often does it.
In 2010 he played a Challenger. Yeah.

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Re: Houston Entry List/Fact Sheet (updated March 23, 2013)

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Again, point me out other instances where Wawrinka played an event with such a depleted field.
You're right, such a depleted field is hard to find on the ATP level. Thanks Chase Visa for finding one in Challenger.
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Re: Houston Entry List/Fact Sheet (updated April 2, 2013)

wawa is a casablanca veteran
even managed to get bageled by klizan en route the championship
http://stevegtennis.com/results/2010/a-casablanca.txt

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Re: Houston Entry List/Fact Sheet (updated April 2, 2013)

I have nothing against Stan, I like the guy, just want to be clear about that. So regretfully that I dragged him into this conversation which is not at all about him. It's a stupid notion to suggest that any players playing a ATP250 is vulturing. Then again, we know it's not about that either, it's just about personal bias ruining every conversation. MTF is so frustrating these days *sigh*.
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Re: Houston Entry List/Fact Sheet (updated March 23, 2013)

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You're right, such a depleted field is hard to find on the ATP level. Thanks Chase Visa for finding one in Challenger.
So all you can find is a home event he played to promote Swiss tennis three years ago, really? That surely indicates consistent vulturng

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This. But sadly we can still read that guy's BS when some other users quote him. I was out of these forums for months and now I see this guy is still here polluting the board with his pathetic vulturing idiocy
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Stan won Lugano challenger in 2009 and 2010 (and actually Stan was the top-player out of top-4 who was used to playing the lightest schedule, he has decided to play more this year).

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Re: Houston Entry List/Fact Sheet (updated April 2, 2013)

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I have nothing against Stan, I like the guy, just want to be clear about that. So regretfully that I dragged him into this conversation which is not at all about him. It's a stupid notion to suggest that any players playing a ATP250 is vulturing. Then again, we know it's not about that either, it's just about personal bias ruining every conversation. MTF is so frustrating these days *sigh*.
the funniest is when none of these known guys shows up it's "weak event" and "challenger" but if someone plays it, then despite the tournament gets some legacy now, he's becoming "vulture"

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the funniest is when none of these known guys shows up it's "weak event" and "challenger" but if someone plays it, then despite the tournament gets some legacy now, he's becoming "vulture"

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Are you implying that Monaco is 'someone' ie a big name? His presence only diminishes the event.

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Re: Houston Entry List/Fact Sheet (updated April 5, 2013)

Good luck here to Haas, Hewitt, Blake and Monfils.
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