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difficulty of draws for past grand slam champions

I am trying to see how lucky or hard-earned those past grand slam champions were. As Roger Federer is now the big favorite of the tournament before semi-final, his draw this time seems exceedingly difficult. I am trying to compile the H2H into the tournament of past grand slam champions to see who has overcome most number of nemesis to win the title.

For 2003:
Agassi @Australian Open
R128 Brian Vahaly (USA) 1:0
R64 Hyung-Taik Lee (KOR) 2:0
R32 Nicolas Escude (FRA) 4:1
R16 Guillermo Coria (ARG) 1:0
QF Sebastien Grosjean (FRA) 2:2
SF Wayne Ferreira (RSA) 10:0
F Rainer Schuettler (GER) 1:0
total H2H into tournament 21:3

Ferrero @French Open
R128 Michel Kratochvil (SUI) 2:0
R64 Nicolas Massu (CHI) 3:1
R32 Tim Henman (GBR) 0:1
R16 Felix Mantilla (ESP) 6:0
QF Fernando Gonzalez (CHI) 0:2
SF Albert Costa (ESP) 2:3
F Martin Verkerk (NED) 1:0
total H2H into tournament 14:7

Federer @Wimbledon
R128 Hyung-Taik Lee (KOR) 0:0
R64 Stefan Koubek (AUT) 3:1
R32 Mardy Fish (USA) 0:0
R16 Feliciano Lopez (ESP) 0:0
QF Sjeng Schalken (NED) 4:1
SF Andy Roddick (USA) 3:0
F Mark Philippoussis (AUS) 2:1
total H2H into tournament 12:3

Roddick @US Open
R128 Tim Henman (GBR) 0:1
R64 Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) 3:1
R32 Flavio Saretta (BRA) 0:0
R16 Xavier Malisse (BEL) 7:0
QF Sjeng Schalken (NED) 2:1
SF David Nalbandian (ARG) 2:0
F Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP) 0:0
total H2H into tournament 14:3


Apparently last year Ferrero got the toughest H2H into the tournament among the 4 grand slam champions, yet he still benefited from the fact that Costa was too exhausted to play him.

I don't have time to find out about more difficult draws in the past but if you remember a very tough draw for your favorite champions please post here. Thanks!
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Re: difficulty of draws for past grand slam champions

Interesting. Thanks for the post!

Andre definitely got a much more easy draw at the AO last year, relative to the other GS champs.

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Re: difficulty of draws for past grand slam champions

It's an interesting idea for a thread.

But in a way it rewards a player for bad previous results.

still, it's another way of looking at it...
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Re: difficulty of draws for past grand slam champions

lol, if you take Wayne Ferreira out of there (10-0! lol), Agassi's numbers become like andy and roger's!
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Re: difficulty of draws for past grand slam champions

Ha, if Federer this event-his will both be one of the toughest roads EVER. SAme with Marat, he had a tough road with Roddick, Agassi then Fererro/Federer

Federer-
Bogomolov Jr
Morrison
Ried (okay, its zbout to get harder)
Hewitt
Nalbandian
Fererro
Safin (That is, if he wins, that would be a very tough final four rounds)
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Re: difficulty of draws for past grand slam champions

I dont know if thats a fair way of determening draw difficulty.
It assumes that because Verkerk and Ferrero have not played each other that their equal players.
And consequently that Roddick in Wimbledon semi final was a easier opponent for Roger then Verkerk was for Ferrero at the French.
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Re: difficulty of draws for past grand slam champions

I agree with your points WyverN & MisterQ. I have another way of looking at it, that is, to list the single high rank of the opponents into the tournament. This is a bit harder to determine for the past slams as we only have the high rank up to now for each player. But it is clear that this time both Rogi and Safin got very tough draw:

Roger Federer:
R128 Alex Bogomolov Jr. (USA) 97
R64 Jeff Morrison (USA) 85
R32 Todd Reid (AUS) 148
R16 Lleyton Hewitt (AUS) 1
QF David Nalbandian (ARG) 8
SF Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP) 1

Marat Safin:
R128 Brian Vahaly (USA) 64
R64 Jarkko Nieminen (FIN) 27
R32 Todd Martin (USA) 4
R16 James Blake (USA) 22
QF Andy Roddick (USA) 1
SF Andre Agassi (USA) 1

I can't help but amazed at Safin's fitness level Rogi has a similarly tough draw but the difference is that those are the players who he had trouble with in the past. I hope Rogi can finish his match in 4 sets to get even with Safin on energy reservation as Safin gets one more day to rest. No offense to Ferrero's fans but I feel Rogi put more effort into this tournament and is deserved to be in the final :-)
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