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Re: Is Roddick ready to dominate?

Youre a disgrace to an Andy fan as well!!! By far the worst i've seen.
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Re: Is Roddick ready to dominate?

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Roddick has the talents to dominate on Clay, Grass, Hard Court, and the softer indoor courts.
I can tolerate to name all the surfaces, but CLAY? Are you kidding me? He has just won 1 tournament at St. Poelten or something like that and nothing else. And on clay, I think he's yet no contender for the main baseliners.

About Roger...HELLO? He won the TMS of Hamburg...and some other clay tournaments, and he's proven that he has been quite regular, or good enough in all surfaces.

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Re: Re: Is Roddick ready to dominate?

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God, have you even watched a tennis match?? If you have, Id be suprised, with your so far off anaylisis of Federer and Roddick. Please leave & never come back, your a discrace to a Tennis fan!!
Fedex, imo this is uncalled-for. Come on now, this guy may be wrong or think differently on some issues, but he put plenty of energy and thought into his posts. He has just arrived here --- I prefer that we give a welcoming and positive impression of this place.
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Ryan also assumes that Roger won't get any better. LOL Oh and take a look at the Wimbly stats, Andy played great. He needed a tipsy Roger to beat in Montreal. Brad Gilbert is not the end all of tennis. You dismiss Roger and JC way too much and give Andy credit for things he will never do like do great at RG.
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Re: Is Roddick ready to dominate?

I seriously don't think Roddick will win the French Open, at least not for a long while.
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Re: Is Roddick ready to dominate?

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I believe Roddick is ready to dominate, this year he will win the majority of the slams and only go out in the semis or finals of the ones he doesn't win. He is the only player with weapons to dominate on every surface. A-Rod has a big serve, a powerful baseline game, and the ability to rush the net. Roddick has the talents to dominate on Clay, Grass, Hard Court, and the softer indoor courts. If you look at the other Slam winners you will see reasons why they cannot truly dominate...
Roddick could dominate but he has plenty of weaknesses - a unreliable backhand when put under pressure, lack of instinct regarding net game, lack of a B game when he is being outplayed.

Put it this way - if Sampras couldn't dominate on all 4 surfaces then Roddick wont.
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If you watch sports long enough you realize two things; for one, the most gifted player doesn't always win, and two great coaching makes winners.
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Roger might have the best raw skills but he can't consistently produce.
At the moment but what will happen if he develops mentally as plenty of players have during their career (Agassi, Lendl)

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If Roger plays his “A” game at Wimbledon, then and only then will he beat Roddick. Federer hasn't consistently done that and Roddick is a much-improved player from last year. Don’t expect straight sets again. Andy has grown so much in his shot selection, controlling emotions and net skills.
Yet Federer thrashed Roddick at Houston where the surface favours Roddick over Federer so a fairer assesment would be Roddick needs to play his A game against Federer to compete with him.


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Don't be surprised if Roddick still beats Federer's "A" game at Wimbledon. This has do with the second part of this equation; Brad Gilbert. This man, during his pro career was known as the "giant killer' because his game was small but he played so smart he could take down a player with giant game. Brad beat some of the best players on the tour in his day Becker, Chang, Agassi, Jonny Mac, and etc. He also coached Agassi from 100+ in the world to number 1, collecting one grand slam trophy after another along the way. This is Roddick's ace up his sleeve, no pun intended. This is the reason why Roddick will dominate; he has the best coach in the game, even if he is just "winning ugly"....
You make some good points and Roddick would probably dominate if it wasn't for Federer but I believe Federer will stop Roddick dominating in the same way that Sampras stopped Agassi dominating.
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Re: Federer on clay better than A-rod....hmmm..no

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Is everyone forgetting that Andre Agassi won on clay? I expect to see Roddick do well well on clay for two simple reasons. Roddick's baseline game is good enough to rival any clay courter. That mean's you Coria!! He went out early last year but, that's a coaching problem.
Agassi won the French once in 17 years, he needed a comeback and 6-4 in the 5th to do it. Plus why are you comparing Agassi to Roddick who have such different games?
At the moment Roddick's baseline game is no where enar good enough to rival clay courters especially when you consider clay courts are slow and those big forehands of Roddicks will be neutralised.

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Federer, yea, he's won some Clay tournaments but, who cares? Sampras won some too...Federers is not a net rusher like Pete but, he doesn't have the baseline game to contend with any of those Spaniards.
And Roddick does? Federer's game is far more consistent of the ground, Federer needs to realise that on clay he should work his way into the point rather then go for winners.
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realityryan is definitely a die hard fan of the dick....well all die hard fans are often blinded by the realities of thier fav's game.....isn't it realityryan....nevertheless thanx for pointing out to us why the dick will never dominate....

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Re: Is Roddick ready to dominate?

Interesting post Ryan. And welcome to MTF. Although I disagree with some of the points you made.

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Re: Is Roddick ready to dominate?

How neat...F fans flattering themselves by putting fans in the same category.
Ironic posts, coming from wishful thinkers.
We shall see what the future'll bring.
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Re: Re: Is Roddick ready to dominate?

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God, have you even watched a tennis match?? If you have, Id be suprised, with your so far off anaylisis of Federer and Roddick. Please leave & never come back, your a discrace to a Tennis fan!!
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Re: Re: Is Roddick ready to dominate?

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OMG, Who wrote this bullshit!!!!! Roddick will dominate. Who is this asshole. They must know nothing of tennis. Since when is Roddick the all court stylish player, & since when can Federer ONLY serve & volley!!!! Roddick, as of now will be lucky to get to the QF of RG. Im sure Andy fans are worshipping whoever wrote this. Swedish fish??? He's swiss, not swedish!!! Since when does roddick have a superb baseline game & can rush the net & volley like Federer or Henman. I have never, EVER seen an idiot like you on these boards, i will admit!!! Federer wont beat Roddick even with his "A" game. Go **ck yourself, just so i dont die of anger & laughing. Federer has much better clay results, & can actually win RG! Ferrero is not 1 dementional like Roddick. Have you seen roddicks, movement, BH, Volleys, footwork. Im afraid you are beyond help, my friend!!!
Alright settle down buddy, as you can see alot of thought and effort were put into my posts. I don't just come out and say things. I have constructed some great points. You may not agree with me but, that's why this is a forum. So please by all means argue my points with some of your own. Otherwise, quit trolling my thread...
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Salarities between Agassi and Roddick are there

Agassi and Roddick play a different type of game. Agassi is a true a baseliner, with a compact swing. Agassi wins points by controlling them and punishing his opponents, running them back and forth, until he finishes the point with a great angled shot. Agassi doesn't have a big serve but, still has one of the best “return of serves” in the game.

Roddick is the complete opposite of that. Roddick over powers his opponents with a big serve and a flashy forehand. He gets alot of cheap points like that (winners/aces). His backhand is not a suspect as some think. His backhand has proven to be quite consistent as of recent times(via Brad Gilbert). Roddick's return of serve is a downfall, he stands about 5 feet behind the baseline to return serve and he hits back some of the weakest shots.

This is where the differences between the two end.

Roddick and Agassi have the ability the take control of points with their powerful ground strokes. Both hit the ball with a certain amount of topspin, which is crucial to do on clay. Roddick and Agassi both come into the court taking advantage of balls that aren’t with good depth to give themselves better angles on the ball until they ultimately put it away. This is the reason why Roddick can dominate on clay, this is the type of strategy which let's you accel on clay.
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Re: Salarities between Agassi and Roddick are there

But the difference is, Roddick's court positioning and the consistency of his groundstrokes are both highly suspect compared to Agassi, who is always controlling the game from his position on the baseline - Roddick has more power in his forehand, but is vulnerable to being manoeuvred about the court and dropshotted by the best claycourters. Honestly, I'm not saying that Roddick will never improve on clay, but to say that he has the same baseline skills as Agassi on the dirt is ridiculous.

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ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

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ROGER FEDERER: No. It was at the front desk. I didn't walk in naked.
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