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Raonic messed up big time, Maria.

Raonic's actions on court is one thing. I can understand the temptation mid-match. However, he had so many people watching. If the temptation was too big during the match, he should have thought it over once he stepped off court. Apologise or something.

But no, he gives an answer like "hypothetically yes, technically no", when confronted with the question that the point was Delpo's.

Having said that, I don't think that Raonic should be crucified for this. The outrage against it is a bit exaggerated.

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A non-PC answer is not necessarily fun or interesting. It's a cliché too often used on MTF but non-PC answers can often also be rude and/or dumb. We need strong personalities in tennis, not dumb ones.

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The situation in Russia with an anti-gay policy is, frankly, quite scary.

I don't get it. Why is homosexuality such a threat to society for Putin & co? We have an openly gay prime minister and nobody gives a damn about his sexual preference. The main thing is doing a good job as a prime minister.

I mean, sure: I've read all the arguments from a religious viewpoint, from conservative viewpoints about marriage and family and so on...

But when all is said and done, I don't understand why being gay should be such a threat to others. Live and let live. As long as they're not harming anybody, what's the big deal? Being gay is never going to threaten humanity, is it?

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^ Putin is macho, Hilde.
And yes some think homosexuality is a threat to humanity.

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A non-PC answer is not necessarily fun or interesting. It's a cliché too often used on MTF but non-PC answers can often also be rude and/or dumb. We need strong personalities in tennis, not dumb ones.
So you think they're dumb? Raonic, Tomic, Dimitrov & Co?

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So you think they're dumb? Raonic, Tomic, Dimitrov & Co?
No. I don't know them well enough to be able to make such a statement.

But Raonic saying what he said to the question about Delpo's point: that was dumb.

Saying one dumb thing is not the same as suggesting that the person is dumb. Don't put words in my mouth.

My point was that saying something non-PC is not the same thing as fun & interesting and this is a link too often made on MTF.

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And yes some think homosexuality is a threat to humanity.
As I said, I've read all the arguments but when it comes down to it, it's all

That's the same answer you hear when you ask why there are no openly gay football players (at top level or even lower). The answer you get is: "football is a macho world" as if that's the end to it. That's also
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OK Hilde, fair enough.

Davy retired, felt very bad.

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Hilde, I agree with you about Russia and gays but it's not the worst thing happening in Russia. Democracy, human rights are more serious issues. You can't expect tolerance against gays if they have very little tolerance for people who think differently in general.

I hate the Russian government and Putin almost more than anything else. It's not just the general things but how they try to influence (and do influence) our parties, how they buy newspapers to publish what they want, how they are trying to separate the Russians in Latvia from the Latvians. Did you know that Russians in Russia consider Latvia as their enemy no.2 (after the US)? It's ridiculous but it's true, and I think Estonia was no.3 on that list. See the power of their propaganda machine? Russia just can't leave the Baltic countries alone and I hate it, and sometimes it also scares me. I try not to think about it in general.

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There is no argument to persecute someone for his sexual preferences. None.

Maybe I don't like oral sex and tomorrow I'm the prime minister of Romania and promote a law to totally forbid it. What about that?

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Hilde, I agree with you about Russia and gays but it's not the worst thing happening in Russia. Democracy, human rights are more serious issues. You can't expect tolerance against gays if they have very little tolerance for people who think differently in general.

I hate the Russian government and Putin almost more than anything else. It's not just the general things but how they try to influence (and do influence) our parties, how they buy newspapers to publish what they want, how they are trying to separate the Russians in Latvia from the Latvians. Did you know that Russians in Russia consider Latvia as their enemy no.2 (after the US)? It's ridiculous but it's true, and I think Estonia was no.3 on that list. See the power of their propaganda machine? Russia just can't leave the Baltic countries alone and I hate it, and sometimes it also scares me. I try not to think about it in general.

You're right.
I am worried about the skinheads in Russia who kill the people/immigrants from the Caucasus and Central Asia (racism) and then Russia accuses us (meaning Latvia and Estonia) being fascist countries!
And what a paradox - Russia suffered most (at least so they say) from fascism during WW II and now there are nationalists (meaning fascists) acting freely and killing people. And yes they kill gays too, beat them to death simply because they're gay, absolutely horrible to read.
It's horrible that Putin has endorsed the worshipping of Stalin, that really scares me.

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I'm watching... But something about Raonic really bugs me. I don't like watching him

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Ernests! Some absolutely great tennis from him and then...
LOL it's like my old Safin days all over again. Even the racket smashing!

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Got the 2nd set though!

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Sorry about Ernests losing, Evita!
A Canadian in the final guaranteed, wow!

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