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Anyone read the book?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/140...P587Y42V6CDVAX

I will buy it soon

Has anyone read it? What's your opinion?

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Re: Anyone read the book?

Nope, I don't have the book (yet)
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star and MariaV have the book already.
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Re: Anyone read the book?

And I finished mine!

It was pretty good.
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Re: Anyone read the book?

is there juicy gossip about the tour?
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is there juicy gossip about the tour?
From Rafa????

You’ve got to be kidding!

Lots of stuff about Toni though.

Mary is what Rafa calls Maria Francisca, and nobody calls her Xisca. Mary is strange, no?
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No, about the tour, other players, etc...

It would be "Mari" and pronounced the Spanish way, it's a common short version for María. "Xisca" is short for Francisca, but that's used only in Balearic islands. I've read many times she isn't called "Xisca" by anyone close, just the media, I doubt that.
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No, about the tour, other players, etc...

It would be "Mari" and pronounced the Spanish way, it's a common short version for María. "Xisca" is short for Francisca, but that's used only in Balearic islands. I've read many times she isn't called "Xisca" by anyone close, just the media, I doubt that.


Why wouldn’t the author say Mari then? Maybe he thinks we are stupid.

They stomp on the name Xisca, and kick it, and kill it.

Nothing about the players. He doesn’t even talk about LilLo. or Pico. Or Flo. He talks about playing Federer and Djokovic in particular matches. The author interviews Moya, so there is Moya talking about Rafa. Rafa talks about his mother, his father, Toni, Titin, Tuts, Maymo, and the Dr. whose name I can’t remember right now.
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Isn't it boring?

Not mentioning LiLo, that's unforgivable, he owes him a couple of titles.

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Isn't it boring?

Not mentioning LiLo, that's unforgivable, he owes him a couple of titles.
Wouldn’t you think?

It’s interesting psychologically. It’s interesting hearing about what goes on in Rafa’s mind in matches and how he views his matches. The stuff about Toni is very interesting. Also what he says about his father.

The the author talks about Mallorquins (? is that right?) and their mentality. How the family views Rafa — bad driver which is a nearly unforgivable sin for me. Really value good driving especially in a man. It’s a sexy thing.

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it has long been known that the wheel is an extension of a man's will
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it has long been known that the wheel is an extension of a man's will
And a woMan’s will.

Love to see the power a woman gets behind the wheel.
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Mallorquins are very special kind of people, yep. Those families living for centuries in the little island invaded by every kingdom, caliphate or republic around. Everyone seems welcome yet kept at safe bay.
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I would love to read it!
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Re: Anyone read the book?

I just received the book. I haven't read the book entirely yet but so far, it's interesting. You notice right away that this book was written by a good author (John Carlin). (the sections where Rafa talks are a result from a conversation between Carlin and Rafa, but it's probably safe to assume that Carlin was the one to actually write it down).

Like star says, it's interesting from a psychological point of view. Esp. towards Toni.

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Most of Rafa's family members have often noted that Toni is VERY, VERY strict with Rafael and not just now but from the start.
Rafa's godfather (the brother of his mother) is the one, so it seems, to actually sometimes stand up to Toni for this. At one point, he called Toni's strict approach "mental cruelty".
--> Most of Rafa's family have had concerns as well but most of them also accept that Toni had a plan and a reason. The fact that no other kid (Toni used to coach many kids) received this treatment was because Toni felt that Rafael was the only one who could handle that and the only one with the mind of a future champion.
Rafa says that in his everyday life, he's quite clumsy (his godfather says that he has that from his mother). One day (he was only a boy then), he wanted to jump over the net to get to the other side of the court, he stumbled and fell on his wrist. It was obvious that Rafa was in quite a bit of pain and he needed to go to a doctor but instead, Toni said to Rafa, pointing to his head, that it's empty up there (paraphrasing).
Rafa's godfather saw and heard it, he got upset. Took Rafa to take him to a doctor and he said to Toni that he went too far this time.

The interesting part of that is that Rafa can understand why Toni was so harsh to him at times and his uncle Miguel Angel understands it as well. Maybe you need to know for yourself how very tough it is at the top of a professional sport to know what it takes to strengthen a young mind so that he can deal with competing at a top level.

Carlin says that Toni is different than the other Nadals. Not that he's the black sheep of the family because that's not the family's way of doing things.
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