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Denis Shapovalov

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I thought I would create Denis Shapovalov his own Thread considering now he is firmly inside the top 30 in junior and raising and he is an double grand slam champ as well and plus his result have gotten better over the last couple months, we can still post in the 1999-2001 Juniors Thread about him as well if you like just like for Felix. but I just thought it was time for him to get his own thread, and hopefully he continue to carry on his great form and success through this years and many years to come for Canada tennis










Biography

Name: Denis Shapovalov
Born: 04-15-1999 (17 years old)
Birth Place: Tel Aviv, Israel
Left Handed (One Handed Backhand)
Trains: NTC
Coach:Tessa Shapovalova & Adriano Fuorivia
Age Started Tennis: 5
Favorite Surface: Hard
Career High ATP Ranking: 245
Career High ITF Junior Ranking: 29
Current ITF Junior Ranking: 29
Career High Tennis Europe 14&U Ranking: #358

Titles Won & Notable Accomplishments:
2013: 18&U U18 ITF World Ranking Event 2 G5
2014: 18&U All Canadian ITF Junior Championships G5
2014: 18&U Copa Cariari G4
2015: 18&U Rogers Indoor Junior National Championships
2015: 18&U Rogers Outdoor Junior National Championships
2015: Junior Davis Cup
2016: $10k Weston, FL, USA
2016: $25k Memphis, TN, USA
2016: $10k Orange Park, FL, USA
2016: 18&U Nike Junior International Roehampton G1
2016: 18&U The Junior Championships, Wimbledon GA

Doubles Titles:
2014: 18&U Copa Cariari G4
2015: 18&U US Open Junior Tennis Championship GA
2015: $10k Pensacola, FL, USA
2016: $10k Orange Park, FL, USA
 
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#774 ·
Happens. Quite annoying it was against such an unpleasant character (and really mediocre player these days). But what can you do. He'll learn from that and grow.
@Drango, cheer up! :)
 
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Happens. Quite annoying it was against such an unpleasant character (and really mediocre player these days). But what can you do. He'll learn from that and grow.
@Drango, cheer up! :)
Lol like I said earlier, I'm not too disappointed just because he lost 1 match in the year. Of course it's a shame that it happened to a guy like Troicki and that he got bageled in the 3rd, but it's really not that big of a deal because he's still adjusting to the tour. I actually had a feeling that Troicki was gonna be a very tricky opponent, kinda like Dutra Silva was in R1, but unfortunately this time he didn't find a way to get through.

I just think that if he had gotten through it, a QF run would have been very much doable...but anyways it is what it is. Still 3 tournaments more to go so hoping he makes a deep run in at least 1 of them and ends the year in the top 40.
 
#775 ·
How he lost to Troimug?
Anyway, happens.
 
#776 ·
He was struggling with the court, it seemed. It plays very fast, I reckon, he's not used to that. Many players struggle in the first couple days, actually. That's where one's experience is invaluable. Denis was uncomfortable all the way through. His serve was up and down, the timing of the groundstrokes was off. Could've ended in straights, to be honest. He was broken quickly. Managed to make a rebreak and drag it to a TB, during which Troicki had a totally unecessary meltdowd following a close call (no hawk eye on that court, both players were frustrated with several questionable calls). He was screaming at Bernardes, DF'ing and being his regular obnoxious self. But in the second set he calmed down. Denis, OTOH, had gotten progressively more deflated until he completely lost his grounds in the third.
 
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#782 ·
Everyone gets it. Even the clowns that are pretending they don't. They just troll and try to annoy you because they can see they're succeeding. Also, the fact his results, positive or less so, trigger such strong reaction is good. It means people are invested. For better or worse. Another young "prodigy", USO QF-ist Rublev got creamed by a challenger player (although the best there is! :lol:) two weeks ago. 6-2 6-1. There were barely 15 posts in that thread and no discussion at all.

Lol like I said earlier, I'm not too disappointed just because he lost 1 match in the year. Of course it's a shame that it happened to a guy like Troicki and that he got bageled in the 3rd, but it's really not that big of a deal because he's still adjusting to the tour. I actually had a feeling that Troicki was gonna be a very tricky opponent, kinda like Dutra Silva was in R1, but unfortunately this time he didn't find a way to get through.

I just think that if he had gotten through it, a QF run would have been very much doable...but anyways it is what it is. Still 3 tournaments more to go so hoping he makes a deep run in at least 1 of them and ends the year in the top 40.
Troicki is a very mediocre player these days and he's definitely beatable. But his experience gave him the edge today. Unfortunate loss, but it's not a big deal. Again, don't get your hopes high for the remaining tournaments. He might do well or do horribly. Either would be a part of making his first steps on the tour.
 
#779 ·
As I said in the results thread, it's disappointing, but part of the learning experience. I think it's the 3rd set score more than the overall loss that has me disappointed. He usually puts up a good fight right to the end, so to see him bagelled in the 3rd set is what's most disappointing.

I really think playing in Tokyo likely would have helped him here, it's too bad he had the visa issues.
 
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#781 ·
Everyone gets bageled at some point - even the great Federer. It's an unpleasant thing to be sure, and I'll bet he learns tons from it. But, Drango is bang on when he says this is all new for him. Good grief! The guy is now ranked 50 and moved up 200 spots in one year. When was the last time anyone did that?
 
#783 ·
no players will win all the time, he just came off from a SF M1000 and R4 of a grand slam.. was outside of top 100 before august.
he lost to a player with similar rank in 3 sets it's not like he lost to someone ranked 100 below him in a tragic fashion. surely a bagel doesnt look pretty but he still have plenty of time to improve.


just remember haters always shout the loudest ;)
 
#785 ·
I think that fans make too much out of a young player's wins and losses. When Shapovalov got to the semis of Montreal and the QF (or was it 4R?) of the USO, all the gushing, hyperventilating praise made Shapovalov out to be the next sure thing, a future double-digit Slam champion. Now that he lost to Troicki, his haters are predicting a journeyman-at-best career.

Let's all take a deep breath. Yes, Denis clearly has talent, and he's had a few nice wins. But despite some promising results, I think the sample size is still too small to make any reasonable predictions about his future. I'm not at all concerned by the loss to Troicki, even though I think Troicki is a very mediocre and mentally fragile player. Consistency, the ability to deal with different situations, and the tennis-smarts to figure out how to win when you're not playing your best are all skills one learns with experience, something Denis has very little of. On the other hand, I don't make that much out of Shapo's good runs in Montreal & Flushing Meadow because it's a lot easier to win when you have nothing to lose. Let's see how he handles matters when he's a known commodity on the tour and he's actually the favorite in a match. Let's see how well he does when he doesn't have thousands of raucous Canadians in the stands cheering like crazy for him. A 19-year-old Richard Gasquet beat Roger Federer in Monte Carlo. Early results aren't necessarily good predictors of future success.

For what it's worth, I agree with Rafa when he said that the loss to Denis was Rafa's worst match of the year. Let's not forget that Borna Coric beat both Rafa & Andy very early on. I'm not predicting pusher mediocrity for Denis. I think he'll be a far superior player than Coric in a couple of years. In some ways he already is. But if any Shapo fans are already predicting double-digit Slams and all-time greatness for Denis, I think they're getting carried away.
 
#791 ·
For what it's worth, I agree with Rafa when he said that the loss to Denis was Rafa's worst match of the year. Let's not forget that Borna Coric beat both Rafa & Andy very early on. I'm not predicting pusher mediocrity for Denis. I think he'll be a far superior player than Coric in a couple of years. In some ways he already is. But if any Shapo fans are already predicting double-digit Slams and all-time greatness for Denis, I think they're getting carried away.
I agree with pretty much all of what you said, but it should be mentioned here that Nadal said that because of how much the loss meant to him at the time (it was thought to be the thing that would prevent him from finally reaching #1 again considering Fererer was a favourite at that tournament and in Cincinnati and New York), not because of his level (although he obviously wasn't at his best).

The 2014 Coric win over Nadal is hardly comparable at all to what Shapovalov did in Montreal. Nadal literally played that tournament with appendicitis and had surgery the following week. He was abysmal in that match (understandably). The 2015 Coric win over Murray in Dubai was also a pure tank on Andy's part. He did not want to be on the court that day for whatever reason. Coric deserves some credit for not blowing it from a winning position in those spots, but it didn't take a really high level to make those wins happen.

Given what he did in Montreal and New York, Shapovalov has undeniably shown far more than Coric did at the same stage of their careers. That doesn't mean he's going to even win one slam, let alone multiple ones, but the potential is there (regardless of whether he is winning or losing largely meaningless matches to decent ATP veterans like Troicki).
 
#787 ·
Exactly. I know that the Big 3 are overhyped non-stop and there are hundreds of posts and dozens of threads which contain 100% of this nonsense every day. But in a sense the Big 3 earned the right to be overhyped. Denis still hasn't. Just chill. Let his results speak for themselves. Getting into endless arguments trying to "fix" the haters and convert the non-believers will only lead to the opposite.
 
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Yup, amazing that he chose to play because he didn't want to let the fans down. That is some good karma there. Also TessaTennis posted on FB that he was really sick and that the day of the match was his first day out of bed. So, to be that sick then play in 85 degree heat and high humidity, no wonder he ran out of gas. That is why the other posts are confirmed that he wasn't showing up for practice sessions, and he didn't look good on the court. So, not a bad performance at all; but in fact the opposite. Amazing he was able to play.
 
#792 ·
Yup, and not only did he play a healthy opponent who did well in this tournament last year, but he also managed to take a set and make it pretty competitive until the sickness & heat was too much to handle. This guy is a real fighter and that kind of spirit will take him very far in tennis!
 
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