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Well then add Shamasdin to the team too.
I would, I was just questioning what others would do.

Remember if we add Shamasdin an either Milos or Frank gets hurt then Nestor or Shamasdin will have to play a singles rubber which will pretty much be a guarenteed loss. May bring Peter to ensure we will at least have a small chance if someone gets hurt

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Re: Davis Cup

So, yeah, Spain's got the world's best doubles team of late (though they were taken to a third set tiebreak in their first round at the aussie open). It's a tossup Frank or Milos to parnter Daniel (I would select Peter over Adil, for singles play insurance.)

And Spain has a decided advantage in No. 2 singles - either Bautista or Ramos (or Granollers) vs. Frank or Peter. Still, it definitely could be worse - no Nadal, no Ferrer, no Verdasco, maybe no Almagro even, (but no Levine and no Pospisil).

I guess you go with Frank over Peter. Looking at the Aussie Open qualifying, he went out to Brands in three sets and Brands is playing at around 50 in the world right now. Peter got to the third round and went out to Mannarino handily. It might depend on how they do this week - Frank plays (Heibronn) against Karlovic, then likely Ouanna, then Mathieu; Peter has a Chinese wildcard, then likely Bogie, then likely Ito, in Maui - good to see both getting match play in.
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Peter is signed up to play a challenger in Australia during the davis cup week, and another challenger in Australia the week after. I'm sure if Canada wants him he might come but that's somthing he would have to consider, does he want to give up 2 weeks of weaker challengers to sit on the bench during Davis Cup?

Singles insurance would be nice, but I think I'd still bring Adil. If Milos gets hurts we lose anyway, Frank getting hurt might hurt us but I doubt Frank gets a win anyway, if Adil is a big improvement for doubles(which I can't attest to) then I bring him, doubles will be key

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Sure we want Canada to win but we'd like to have our best against theirs. All their top players have bailed.
I agree that if you are going to watch it that you want to see Spain's best, on the other hand I would rather Canada won the tie, if we win the tie we are safe from the WG playoffs, plus Spain would have to play the WG playoffs, so it's a win win.

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I don't get comments like this, I thought we wanted Canada to win.
That would be nice (particularly being assured of staying in the WG for next year), but Milos getting better is the biggest thing that I care about. DC play can help him do that depending on the opponent.
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That would be nice (particularly being assured of staying in the WG for next year), but Milos getting better is the biggest thing that I care about. DC play can help him do that depending on the opponent.
Well if we've learned one thing from DC play, it's that it's usually pretty tough, no matter who's on the other side of the net.

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Almagro said before he might not play.
You were right, Almagro is out. Although it seems incredible Corretja is having problems to conformate the team. He's in talks with Robredo, Garcia Lopez, Andujar and even with Ferrer trying to find the 4th man (Marc Lopez, Granolles and Ramos who replaced Bautista are the other 3)


It surprised me Vasek was nominated, hope he can play
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Re: Davis Cup

The idea of Vasek playing seems incredulous. He's been out with an ailment whose main symptom is sucking your energy away and they play out of 5 sets in DC. I suspect Peter will get called in in the end. I agree with 156mphserve that doubles is the key and if Adil is an improvement for the doubles, he should be picked. (I'm backtracking on my 'singles insurance' because realistically Spain will take the No. 2 singles no matter who plays.) Milos' lack of a backhand volley makes him quite suspect for the doubles and Frank hasn't been playing doubles. In the end, I think I'd have Frank play it though - he's a fairly adept natural volleyer and Milos needs to be as rested as possible for his singles rubbers.

Man, Spain is down to their sixth and seventh picks and they are still guys in the top 60 - staggering depth. (As long as DC comes right after GS's, there is going to be this ongong trouble getting the best players to play.)

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You were right, Almagro is out. Although it seems incredible Corretja is having problems to conformate the team. He's in talks with Robredo, Garcia Lopez, Andujar and even with Ferrer trying to find the 4th man (Marc Lopez, Granolles and Ramos who replaced Bautista are the other 3)


It surprised me Vasek was nominated, hope he can play
Actually it seems he's in now.

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The idea of Vasek playing seems incredulous. He's been out with an ailment whose main symptom is sucking your energy away and they play out of 5 sets in DC. I suspect Peter will get called in in the end. I agree with 156mphserve that doubles is the key and if Adil is an improvement for the doubles, he should be picked. (I'm backtracking on my 'singles insurance' because realistically Spain will take the No. 2 singles no matter who plays.) Milos' lack of a backhand volley makes him quite suspect for the doubles and Frank hasn't been playing doubles. In the end, I think I'd have Frank play it though - he's a fairly adept natural volleyer and Milos needs to be as rested as possible for his singles rubbers.

Man, Spain is down to their sixth and seventh picks and they are still guys in the top 60 - staggering depth. (As long as DC comes right after GS's, there is going to be this ongong trouble getting the best players to play.)
They won't need Peter, they have Frank, Frank and Milos can play the 5 setters, if there is a 3 setter then maybe Vasek will play it, maybe Vasek is better now, we don't know, Vasek's 1st match of the season certainly can't be a 5 setter vs. Nico, he's not ready for such a high level match yet, we would for sure lose the tie if that happened, Frank certainly gives us more of a chance right now.

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Re: Davis Cup

Its too bad Levine can't play for this tie. He wouldve helped for sure. I don't have much faith in either Frank or Peter. I think it be great Davis Cup reformed a bit and allowed five players on a Davis Cup team. It would give so much flexibility to teams.

If we were allowed 5 player teams, we could have our two doubles specialists (Nestor, Shamasdin) and three singles players, the third singles guy as a backup/insurance player.

So we could have, Nestor/Shamasdin for doubles and Raonic, Levine and Pospisil for singles. In an ideal world, anyways.

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Maybe Vasek will play the doubles? 1 doubles match won't kill him, it's easier fitness wise than singles. I wouldn't play him at all coming off something like that but you gotta think they didn't just add him for nothing. I would think it's

Milos & Frank
Vasek/Nestor
Milos & Frank

I think Frank can beat their number 2 which I believe is Ramos, may be Granollers. Remember this is fast hard court, Ramos is not a good hard courter, Granollers isn't great either.

I think the odds for us to win are as follows

Milos/Ramos 98% or Milos/Granollers 95%
Almagro/Frank 15%
Doubles 40%
Milos/Almagro 40%
Frank/Ramos 55% Frank/Granollers 35%

All in all they have the slight advantage but it will more than likely be 1 to 1 going into the weekend, and all those matches will be close imo, really good chance for us to finally win a World Group tie

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Re: Davis Cup

Also I heard Adil was there as a hitting partner, maybe their plan is to see how Vasek plays in practice and if he's not ready then they switch Adil in for doubles?

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I wouldn't give Dancevic over 50%+ in any DC match. He's certainly capable of beating Granollers or Ramos when in good form, but will he do it? Honestly, he's more likely to get ahead of those guys two sets and a break and blow it than close a match out at this point.
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I think at this point Vasek and Ramos will be the 3 set players, I don't see Vasek being put into a high pressure position right away, the matches are too important, probably will be Milos in the dubs with Dan, can't see Spain picking Ramos over Marcel, Marcel is a better HC player.

We also don't know how healthy Milos's foot is, hope it's fine of course.

Can't deny Frank's DC record isn't great, as in he doesn't have any big wins, hopefully he has a good week in Germany, I don't think he'll beat Granollers though, certainly not Nico, so he can't be relied on to win a match, it will probably come down to the Milos matches and the dubs.

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