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post #66 of (permalink) Old 12-29-2012, 07:17 PM
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Re: Worrying times: lots of challengers missing in 2013

Originally Posted by latso View Post
You can play all year long in Turkey only (except for 3 weeks for the whole year!) 10K tournaments.

A player between top 300 and top 400 would average easily, minimum around 1200$ per month, which is the double of the average salary in Turkey.

The World's #365 has made 12.343,00$ at singles and 5.637,00$ in doubles, average of 1500$ per month.

His name is Enrique Lopez-Perez and he's 21yo.

I'd give a kidney to be his age and make this kind of money, have the possibility to make a profession of my hobby and have the possibility to make much more if i become good enough.

The young guys get help from their respective TF, they get help by sponsors and this is Only because of the potential! They haven't accomplished anything, they just get help for free for them to live up to the expectations.

If they do - they start making enough money to help themselves, if they don't - the money everyone invested is gone and they find a job, often as coaches.

So what's the deal here? We need to subsidize older players to make a decent living of the sport, even though they've never managed to prove to be good enough?

Devilder is 32yo, he's 204th and he's making 80K per season playing mainly Challengers.
Stephan Robert, 32yo, 272nd - 80 Grand

Do you think these guys deserve to win more than that? Is it for them to make more money or the young guys?

The answer is obvious and that's why more money is invested in Futures and less in Challengers.

And it's not even smth to worry about, as it's yet to be known if there would be less CH than last year, which is unlikely imo.

Anyways, it's always up to this - we have limited information and we like to do what average Joe does best - hate the administration, which he has no idea how it works and what it really does.
You are utterly clueless. You say you would like to be Lopez-Perez and making 15k a year, well, no you wouldn't unless you like losing money. Even if he is getting some help from his TF, he could still very well be losing money each year. 15k is absolutely nothing considering the expenses involved. And another thing you clearly don't understand is that only very few countries with wealthy federations can actually support many players. In addition, you act like getting sponsors is easy. Again, it's not. You obviously didn't read that recent article on Tennis Alternative about Guillermo Alcaide. He was top-200 at the end of 2010 but got injured and lost his sponsors while his family had no more money to support him, and he had to retire about a year after he was at his career high ranking. This was a possible future top-100 player from Spain that could not find the money from any source to continue his career.

As for guys like Robert and Devilder, you may not think they have their place, but they do. They are solid veterans that make up the challenger tour and provide the necessary experience for young players that are trying to make the jump to the ATP level. As for them making 80k, well again you somehow think this is a lot when it's not. A full year on the tour playing challengers and ATP qualies when you are flying a lot can easily cost 100k+

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