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post #138 of (permalink) Old 07-29-2012, 04:39 AM
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Re: 12 killed and 59 wounded in Denver shooting at a Batman showing

Originally Posted by buddyholly View Post
My newspaper today has a list of countries of the world with guns/citizen, murders/citizen and murder by gun/citizen.

If I can turn your question around and pose it as ''In which society are you most likely to get shot?'' ,the answer jumps right off the page. Stay away from Latinos. Central and South America are by far the leaders in getting yourself shot.

Consider this: In the US there are 89 firearms/100 citizens. In Brazil there are 8 firearms/100 citizens.

In the US there are 3 homicides by firearm/100,000 citizens. In Brazil there are 18 homicides by firearm/100,000 citizens.

I could go on: Venezuela, 38 homicides by firearm/100,000 citizens; Guatemala 35; Honduras 68; Colombia 28; El Salvador 40; Dominican Rep 16; Ecuador 13.

Finally, the US has 9 times the number of firearms/citizen as Chile, yet the deaths by firearm/100,000 citizens are only about 1.5 times.

These numbers clearly show that the availability of firearms is not the determining factor in deaths by gun, but culture may play the most important role.

You can't just make stuff up!

You're comparing apples with oranges, which led to your bad conclusion (latino countries have higher homicide rates by guns even though they have less firearms per citizens, therefore firearms/citizens is not the most important factor)

It's poor law & order in the latino countries that lead to higher crime, which leads to higher gun violence.
Furthermore you're not even considering the problem of illegal firearms, which is a far greater problem in the SA countries than the States.

Again, the more appropriate comparison should be between the US and Canada (I won't even say European countries because they are more densely populated as a whole. Of course Canada is also far less densely populated than the US but it's probably the closest comparison in terms of culture as a whole apart from gun laws), and the conclusion is pretty clear. More guns means more likely to result in deaths.

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