I loved it how on the WTA tards forum, one fool claimed that out of 100 games against Davydenko, Serena could probably win about 10 times
Do you really think so? Serena Williams could surely win games against just about any male tennis player.
She would struggle to win points, let alone games. I would love to see Rafa or Djoker take on Serena on clay, that would be really funny to see.
Yet you have no answers to the videos I posted breakdown Serena serve, and why it's respect. BTW I love how ESPN Sports Science point out that Serena 2nd serve average was faster than Murray's during Wimbledon.
1) Men actually play with spin too, they don't go for power on the 2nd serve. Women lack that ability.
Last time I checked the Hopman Cup was an actual event players wanted to win, especially Novak in his home crowd.
Yeah, Novak's home ground in Perth. LOL.
I'm not saying Serena could compete against Novak or any Top 200, but she aced him twice, and if you didn't want to count the first one that's fine, but she did ace him again, and he didn't look happy by his body language facing the wall with his head down.
That's it. She aced him twice in a match. Yeah, that will win her games. Even Wozniacki aced Fish, so?
I don't think my point is coming across. What I'm trying to say is that Serena on serve alone, especially on grass court, can win a couple of games against ATP players. She can't beat the Top 200, but she can challenge the men in the 500 or below. Remind you the story about the player that beat her I believe 6-2 or 6-1, he beat Serena when she was still a teen! She didn't reach her physical peak yet, and wasn't he ranked #201 or something closer to the Top 200?
That guy was kidding around, drinking beer, smoking and he also said he was not taking it very seriously.
I believe she's strong enough to role with the Top 400-300 guys. Which by the way, most of them will lose because of unforced errors or mental mistake. I don't know if you've seen Serena play, or how many times you've seen her play, but she's pretty fast, her footwork sometimes is horrible, but she covers the court pretty well and is really fast.
Men ranked 750 do the same she does, only much better.
A drunk man according to him. Was it confirmed by another party that he was actually drunk, and if he gets drunk by 2-3 beers than really I feel bad for him, because he obviously didn't have a social life with male friends going out to sports bars and drinking like crazy.
LOL. There are people on this forum who saw the match, ask them.
Again even if he played like a level 600 player (according to him, he probably didn't want to feel embarrass with the fact a 16 YO girl won a game against him), a 16 YO Serena managed to win a game. Now she would beat a 600 or 500 player.
Beat a 500 or 600 player at what? Not tennis. Any man ranked that would easily beat Serena if he took the game seriously.
Really Bammer? Haha I wonder how their H2H would be if Serena really cared for any of the 2 events she faced her in. Serena never plays GOAT during Cinnci, she actually always tanked that tournament (never cared to win it), and Hobart? Haha you should know the main issue critics had about Serena was her focus in Tennis & they hated the fact she only cared for the GS and Miami. BTW Serena Hobart was her first event back since 2004/05 I believe, and many analyst said she came back fat and slow.
Excuses, excuses. How do you know she didn't care? Do you have scientific proof of that? Was it ever confirmed by her she didn't care?
But this isn't any of those sports. This is Tennis...maybe it's the fact I just seriously started to get into it, because of Rafa/Nadal/Djokovic rivalry, but aside from spin, a little bit more power and speed, and monster serves, I don't see much of a difference between men and women.
I think the fact you just have started watching tennis excuses you, so you are forgiven for the stupid things you have said.
When I went to the US Open last year, frankly I only saw the men a few degrees above the women. I feel Tennis is more of a mental game if anything. I mainly watch American Football & Basketball so I know physically no woman can compete, but those are contact sports. Tennis is more about the mind. Again seeing games in person, I only saw a few degrees of difference between the men and the women.
Did you by any chance drink copious amounts of beer that day?
Maybe is my untrained eye, still learning about the sport.
Originally Posted by Sombrerero loco
he was close to retirement and had drunk 2-3 beers before the match. but ok, williams would beat federer on straight sets
She would bagel him, Roger would barley get a point on her serve. Her serve is better than Isner's