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Stats about retirements, W.O.

Does anybody has stats about injuries and W.O?
For example, I would like to know stats about players retiring at ATP, Challengers and futures matches, for tournament level and also individual stats, for singles and doubles (doubles might have an incredible WO frequency).
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Re: Stats about retirements, W.O.

Here's an interesting one...

Jordi Burillo's road to the title in Segovia (challenger) 1997

R32 Bruno, Nicola (ITA) 3:0 ret.
R16 Calatrava, Alex (ESP) 6-2 4:2 ret.
Q Osorio, Marco (MEX) 6-3 3:1 ret.
S Clavet, Francisco (ESP) 6-4 6-4
W Escude, Nicolas (FRA) 6-3 2:1 ret.

Burillo won four of five matches after the retirement of opponent! This is specific record.

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Re: Stats about retirements, W.O.

Another curiosity:

Boris Becker in Key Biscayne 1993 left the event after three rounds without hitting the ball (!) whilst the five other players in the 3rd round were playing sixth match of the tournament (3 in the qualies, 3rd in the main draw)

Becker KB '93:

R128 bye
R64 Pozzi, Gianluca (ITA) w/o
R32 Kulti, Nicklas (SWE) w/o

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Re: Stats about retirements, W.O.

Thanks, Voo. Both really interesting

I remember the Burrillo's road from your signature

I'm going to make some statistics about retirement and WO, if can't find them already done. I would like to know the frequencies. Hopefuly I can have some from ATP. Another interesting statistic could be done about entry lists, some players quit before the tournament, and get the stats abOUT (just out, to distinguish injured from other abandomnents is not possible, I think)

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Re: Stats about retirements, W.O.

Here is another interesting fact... (Matchpoint ret.)
Masters 1972, Semifinal:
Tom Gorman was leading against Stan Smith 7-6, 6-7, 7-5, 5:4 (40-30) when he reitired Gorman had the problems with his shoulder since the half of the first set and he said after the match that he wouldn't be able to play in the final. So he chose retirement instead of "w/o" before the final

Similar situations:

US Open 1999: J.Novak leads against F.Santoro 6-1, 6-0, 5:1 (30-0)... Santoro retired
Paris-Bercy 1999: R.Krajicek leads against M.Rosset 4-6, 7-5, 5:2... Krajicek retired
(Krajicek's reason was parallel to Gorman's case)
Marseille 2001: K.Kucera leads against J.Tarango 7-6, 5:3 (40-0)... Tarango retired

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Re: Stats about retirements, W.O.

The latest retirement on account of a length match, I think was in the Davis Cup final 1998 when Sweden defeated Italy. Andrea Gaudenzi retired (shoulder injury) in the match against Magnus Norman after 4 hours and 56 minutes of play. M.Norman was leading 6-7(9), 7-6(0), 4-6, 6-3, 6:6 (30-0)...

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Re: Stats about retirements, W.O.

thanks again, Voo!

there is also:
Shrewsberry CH, 2006, 1st round: (LL)Sergei Bubka, Jr. (UKR) d. (2)Dick Norman (BEL) 6-4 6-6 (6-2) ret.
but not sure if it was a retirement or if the older one was defaulted:
Bubka - Norman 6-4 6-6(6-2) ret

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Re: Stats about retirements, W.O.

Interesting stats guys,

BTW, a retirement still counts as loss right?
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Interesting stats guys,

BTW, a retirement still counts as loss right?
Yes.

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Here's an interesting one...

Jordi Burillo's road to the title in Segovia (challenger) 1997

R32 Bruno, Nicola (ITA) 3:0 ret.
R16 Calatrava, Alex (ESP) 6-2 4:2 ret.
Q Osorio, Marco (MEX) 6-3 3:1 ret.
S Clavet, Francisco (ESP) 6-4 6-4
W Escude, Nicolas (FRA) 6-3 2:1 ret.

Burillo won four of five matches after the retirement of opponent! This is specific record.
Makes Mauresmo's AO Slam almost seem credible now.
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thanks again, Voo!

there is also:
Shrewsberry CH, 2006, 1st round: (LL)Sergei Bubka, Jr. (UKR) d. (2)Dick Norman (BEL) 6-4 6-6 (6-2) ret.
but not sure if it was a retirement or if the older one was defaulted:
Bubka - Norman 6-4 6-6(6-2) ret
Some good source (SOS ) said Norman was going nuts in that match and retired out of nothing just before the last point.
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Here's an interesting one...

Jordi Burillo's road to the title in Segovia (challenger) 1997

R32 Bruno, Nicola (ITA) 3:0 ret.
R16 Calatrava, Alex (ESP) 6-2 4:2 ret.
Q Osorio, Marco (MEX) 6-3 3:1 ret.
S Clavet, Francisco (ESP) 6-4 6-4
W Escude, Nicolas (FRA) 6-3 2:1 ret.

Burillo won four of five matches after the retirement of opponent! This is specific record.
awesome
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Here is another interesting fact... (Matchpoint ret.)
Masters 1972, Semifinal:
Tom Gorman was leading against Stan Smith 7-6, 6-7, 7-5, 5:4 (40-30) when he reitired Gorman had the problems with his shoulder since the half of the first set and he said after the match that he wouldn't be able to play in the final. So he chose retirement instead of "w/o" before the final

Similar situations:

US Open 1999: J.Novak leads against F.Santoro 6-1, 6-0, 5:1 (30-0)... Santoro retired
Paris-Bercy 1999: R.Krajicek leads against M.Rosset 4-6, 7-5, 5:2... Krajicek retired
(Krajicek's reason was parallel to Gorman's case)
Marseille 2001: K.Kucera leads against J.Tarango 7-6, 5:3 (40-0)... Tarango retired
This was another one I think:

Kitzbuhel, 2005, R 32: Christophe Rochus lost to Stefan Koubek(89,0.71) (AUT) 4-6 6-4 5-4 ret

not sure of the point scores.
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This was another one I think:

Kitzbuhel, 2005, R 32: Christophe Rochus lost to Stefan Koubek(89,0.71) (AUT) 4-6 6-4 5-4 ret

not sure of the point scores.
Koubek was at MP on Rochus serve, but the Belgian was cramping all over and had to stop.
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Another perverse retirement came from 2nd round of event in Orlando 1998.
Hernan Gumy was leading against Alex Calatrava 6-4, 5:3 (40-30) when he twisted an ankle at match point. Gumy came back on court but lost the set on a tie-break and retired.
The final score: Calatrava won 4-6 7-6(5) ret.

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