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Update after Nice and Duesseldorf...
No changes among top guns.
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Monaco breaking into top 20, Haas moving in front of Raonic and Anderson.
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According to their current Elo ranking points, odds for Nadal vs Djokovic (if their match was to be played tomorrow) would be 1.94 : 2.06, respectively.
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Going into the second week of RG, after first three rounds wins, Nadal slightly increased his lead in Elo points (403.9 versus Djokovic's 391.3), and consequently his odds (Elo expectation) in the eventual semifinal vs Djokovic to 1.930:2.075.

While it seemed that Djokovic had a tougher draw then Nadal, Nadal actually accumulated more Elo points in his first three matches, which means that he had better ranked opponents (by Elo race rankings). Nadal earned 15.3+17.9+17.5 points, while Djokovic had 15.1+16.9+17.3 points.
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Re: Alternative player ranking system

Having said that, it should also be noted that Nadal allowed his opponents more Elo points then Djokovic in the first 3 rounds.
Nadal: 8 points to Brands; 8.7 to Klizan; -5.9 to Fognini; 10.8 total.
Djokovic: -3.3 to Goffin; -3.1 to Pella; -4.9 to Dimitrov; -11.3 total.
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Elo expectation for the blockbuster SF after today's QF matches is in favor of Nadal, 1.919:2.088.
But Nadal is heading into the semi with more points given to his opponents then Novak (totaling +1.4 vs -18.9)!
Djokovic earned a total of 84.2 Elo points up to the SF, and Nadal earned 88.1 point.
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Re: Alternative player ranking system

Update including points from Roland Garros:
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Grass season has started:
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Although my policy is to take into account matches played at exhibition tournaments, I have decided not to include results from the Boodles challenge tournament. The reason for that is because matches are not played in the conventional "best of 3" format (there is a super-tiebreak instead of regular 3rd set), and there is no strict tournament structure that determines the overall winner, so my feeling is that it is not sufficiently competitive for the players.
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Overture to Wimbledon is over, now to the real thing...
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Re: Alternative player ranking system

There was an interesting situation with Wawrinka this week, which illustrates how Elo ranking works.
Wawrinka reached the final in Hertogenbosch, beating lower ranked players (Darcis, Lorenzi, Chardy and Garcia-Lopez), earning 2.9+4.1+5.7+3.6=16.3 Elo points in total, but then lost in the final to Mahut, yet another a lot lower ranked player, and lost 20.4 Elo points just in that single match, thus finishing the tournament with the deficit of 4.1 Elo point despite his 4 wins and a single loss!
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I apologize for the update delay to whoever was expecting it
Here are the standings after Wimbledon:
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Djokovic back to #1, with significant lead over Nadal again, Murray moving to #3 closing the gap, DelPo in top 10.
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Week 28 update, sorry for the delay yet again.
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Week 29 update:
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Now could be a good time for some summary information.

So far, there are 307 players on the list, and of those 307, 221 (71.987%) have played more than one match, and 182 (59.283%) have played more then 2 matches.
Positive score (Elo points >= 0) have earned 202 players (65.798%), but of those who have played more then 2 matches there are 153 (out of 182, 84.066%) players with positive score.
Total difference from first place to last place is 588.8 points, average is 47.8 points total, or 102.7 for players with more then 2 matches played.
The best "journeyman" with only 2 matches played is at 90th place, with 49 points earned from DK matches in the "best of 5" format. The best player with just 1 match played is #122 (again, single victory in DK match).
Top 4 have accumulated 1830 points, almost as much as next 6 from 5th to 10th place (1959.4).
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I have decided to move the list, and to have it always in my last post, so here it is, updated after Umag, Gstaad and Atlanta:

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Week 30 update now obsolete - see newest post.

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