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John McEnroe hasn't winning streak record in Davis Cup because Wayne Ferreira won his first 20 games in Davis Cup. For this statistic I count all matches: in World Group, in Zonal Groups, singles, doubles,... all matches; although it's true that I have not looked at player by player of all countries
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It's correct but Muster doesn't play and played more finals than Davydenko
Depends which limit you set. In my thread I had a minimum 8-finals limit, just randomly. There are of course many with 100 % (91 actually) - if you have no limit.

Min. 3: 5 tied at 100 % (3/3)
Min. 4: Eltingh (NED) at 100 % (4/4)
Min. 5, 6: Tsonga (FRA) at 83,3 % (4/5)
Min. 7: Muster (+ Davydenko)
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Depends which limit you set. In my thread I had a minimum 8-finals limit, just randomly. There are of course many with 100 % (91 actually) - if you have no limit.

Min. 3: 5 tied at 100 % (3/3)
Min. 4: Eltingh (NED) at 100 % (4/4)
Min. 5, 6: Tsonga (FRA) at 83,3 % (4/5)
Min. 7: Muster (+ Davydenko)
Obviously

There are several records where I count only retired players, for example, Best career in history and best career in finals because if I count all players I'm changing the record every 5 minutes
My limit in finals is a significant number, for example, 10
And I remember that Elthing has a record: most titles without lose finals, 4
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Thanks for all
Other Nastase 5-setter match:
Reggio Calabria'1968: Riessen d. Nastase 3-6,3-6,6-3,6-4,6-2
Palermo'1969: Tiriac d. Nastase 4-6,6-0,6-2,2-6,6-2
Travemünde'1969: Nastase d. Gulyas 6-2,7-5,1-6,2-6,6-4
Bruselas'1970: Okker d. Nastase 6-3,6-4,0-6,4-6,6-4

Therefore Nastase has a 5-setter record of 42-23
The Brussels tournament is also listed in the ATP Player's Guide, according to the ... Tom Okker French Wiki Page.

However I would be careful with the other matches. We don't know if they were officials or Invitational. Of course you can include invitational, it would even be a good idea, I think. But Lendl also has his share of 5-setter wins in those tournaments.
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It's correct but Muster doesn't play and played more finals than Davydenko
Thanks for explanation. I assumed min 10 finals ...

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There are of course many with 100 % (91 actually) - if you have no limit.
I think you should check that number...
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The Brussels tournament is also listed in the ATP Player's Guide, according to the ... Tom Okker French Wiki Page.

However I would be careful with the other matches. We don't know if they were officials or Invitational. Of course you can include invitational, it would even be a good idea, I think. But Lendl also has his share of 5-setter wins in those tournaments.
Is very difficult to know if these tournaments are "official" or "friendly". Now 5 setter matches are official and it's very easy

I have record of 19th century (with Sears, Renshaw, Lottie Dod,...)

Then, why I put these dubious records? Because if Federer win 40 5 setter matches someone (myself included) say that Nastase won 42; if Nadal win 7 Roland Garros, Decugis won 8.... I don't want records whith asterisks

Almost all records before Era Open are questionable but they are records. If Federer, Nadal, del Potro,.... beat a record of the 19th century would be news. So I put those records


Something else, thanks all for participation. if I forget to update any record or you find a new record count on your help to add


News: In this week I'll put these new records
Winning streak against Nº1
Total victories against Nº1


and you can try to answer this questions
What player won more numbers 1?
What player lost his first 3 games as number 1?
What player has losing streak as number 1?
Who was the worst ranked player to defeat a No. 1?
What number 1 never played a match as number 1?


In this week the answers (in ATP, no WTA)
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List of lowest ranked women's grand slam champions

Chris O'Neil (Australia) Number 111 won Australian Open'1978
Serena Williams (USA) Number 81 won Australian Open'2007
Barbara Jordan (USA) Number 68 won Australian Open'1979

Is true that Evonne Googalong (in Australian Open'1977) and Kim Clijsters (in US Open'2009) was unranked but they had an excuse, Goolagong just had a child and Clijsters returned to the competition

Anyone know the lowest ranked women that won a title??? I don't know
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I found it

Lowest ranked women's WTA tour title:

Angelique Widjaja Nº579 Bali 2001
Fabiola Zuluoga Nº 285 Bogotá'2002
Tamira Paszek Nº259 Portoroz'2006
Lindsay Davenport Nº234 Bali'2007
Alexandra Dulgheru Nº201 Varsovia'2009
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After gathering all matches of numbers one (excel file with all matches but only winners and losers, no results, nearly 3000 matches if anyone cares) I found out the following records

Winning streak against Nº1: Ivan Lendl 7
Lendl defeated between 1981 and 1983 7 times in a row the number 1. All victories against John McEnroe: 2 in 1982, 4 in 1983 and 1 in 1983

Total victories against Nº1: Boris Becker 19
Boris Becker defeated in 1986 Ivan Lendl (3 times), in 1988 Ivan Lendl and Mats Wilander, in 1989 Ivan Lendl (2 times), in 1990 Ivan Lendl and Stefan Edberg (2 times), in 1991 Stefan Edberg, in 1992 Jim Courier (3 times), in 1994 Pete Sampras (2 times), in 1995 Andre Agassi and in 1996 Pete Sampras (2 times)


Boris Becker defeated 6 differents numbers 1: Lendl, Wilander, Edberg, Courier, Agassi and Sampras

Roger Smith (Bahamas) defeated Ivan Lendl (Nº1) en Stratton Mountain'1988 by 6-2,6-3

Patrick Rafter was number 1 by one week but never played a match as number 1

Thomas Muster is the only number 1 that lost his first 3 matches as number 1 (in 1996 against Sandon Stolle, Adrian Voinea y Nicolás Pereira)

Gustavo Kürten y Marat Safin lost 5 matches in a row as number 1. In 2001 Kürten lost against Greg Rusedski, Jan Michael Gambill, Thomas Johansson, Juan Carlos Ferrero y Max Mirnyi and Marat Safin lost against Greg Rusedski, Karol Kucera, Dominik Hrbaty, Max Mirnyi and Arnaud di Pasquale in 2001 too


Active players:
Rafael Nadal 13 victories against number 1 (last 5 in a row and all against Federer)
Andy Murray 5 (2 against Federer and 3 against Nadal)
Dominik Hrbaty 4 (Kafelnikov, Agassi, Safin and Federer)
Fernando González 3 (Agassi, Hewitt and Federer)
Juan Carlos Ferrero 3 (2 Kürten and 1 Agassi)
Nikolay Davydenko 3 (2 Federer and 1 Nadal)
Roger Federer 3 (against Hewitt, Roddick and Nadal)
Novak Djokovic 3 (all against Federer)
David Nalbandián 3 (3 Federer)
Juan Martín del Potro 3 (1 Nadal and 2 Federer)

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Thanks for explanation. I assumed min 10 finals ...

I think you should check that number...
Sorry, my mistake. It's 69

1 with 4-0
4 with 3-0
11 with 2-0
53 with 1-0
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Sorry, my mistake. It's 69

1 with 4-0
4 with 3-0
11 with 2-0
53 with 1-0
Thanks. I think you have Holecek and Pietrangeli included there. If I'm not mistaken those two finals are from pre-open era.
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eldrick.. can you give us full list of Total victories against Nº1?

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I add a new record, title (Triple Crown)

That is when a player win Singles, Doubles and Mixed Doubles in a same Grand Slam

Men Record: Donald Budge (Wimbledon 1937 and 1938; US Open 1938) with 3 "Triple Crown"
Women Record: Suzanne Lenglen (Roland Garros 1925 and 1926; Wimbledon 1920, 1922 and 1925) and Margaret Court (Australian Open 1963, 1965 and 1969; Roland Garros 1964; US Open 1970) with 5 "Triple Crown"
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Thanks. I think you have Holecek and Pietrangeli included there. If I'm not mistaken those two finals are from pre-open era.
Yes, also one Santana's titles were before the open era with began 28th April 1968. Why the ATP Results Archive has listed this I don't know. But as usual I follow this list (unless something is clearly wrong).
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It's the new thread: better organized, user-friendly,...

In 2003 Clijsters was Nº1 whithout Grand Slam titles as Mauresmo in 2004, Jankovic in 2008 and Safina in 2009. This Monday Wozniacki keeps the streak and will be number 1 whithout Grand Slam title. Wozniacki only played 1 Grand Slam final (lost US Open 2009) and only won 2 WTA Premier titles (Montréal'2010 and Tokyo'2010) but also play final this Sunday in Beijing

Any help with any record; any new record,... is welcome
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