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post #1 of 116 (permalink) Old 12-11-2008, 12:00 AM Thread Starter
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Hellenic Forum?

I think that a Hellenic Forum on this website is necessary, so fans can cheer for Greek and Cypriot players on the ATP tour. This possible forum will include a seperated forum for Marcos Baghdatis attached to it. It will include the current threads:
-Photos Kallias
-Dimitris Kleftakos
-Paris Gemouchidis
-Vasilis Mazarakis
-Konstantinos Economidis
-Alexander Jakupovic
-Greeks or Cypriots?
*New threads will be made for various things like Club Championships, Results, Rankings, Juniors, National Championships, Other players, Davis Cup, Greek stuff talk, etc.

For those of you who disagree with the idea of including Greek and Cypriot players in one forum, here are Greek-Cypriot alliance reasons(feel free to post more if you know any) :
-It will be similar to Chicos Latinos, just smaller.
-Cyprus and Greece share the same national anthem.
-Cyprus Airways is a small airline that operates flights from Cyprus to other destinations, Greece domestic and Greece to other destinations.
-When Cyprus had a drought this summer, Greece was the first to help them.
-Turkish-Cypriot athletes are very rare, and the ones that exist do not play under the Cypriot flag, they play under the Turkish one.
-tennisnews.gr is a website for Greek tennis. They frequently interview Marcos Baghdatis of Cyprus, and in the sections entitled"tennis in greece-men", they talk about Marcos Baghdatis.
-In Bagdatis' interview about the World Cup in 2006 during the French Open, he said"since Greece is not in it, I will be rooting for France, since I train there".
-Life in Cyprus is very similar to life in Greece, as they eat the same food, speak the same language, share similar cultures, same major religion, etc.
-Trapeza Kyprou(Cyprus Bank)is one of the biggest banks in Greece.
-After Cyprus got their independence from Great Britain(prior to the Turkish invasion of 1974), they wanted to unite with Greece.
-On most Greece travel websites, they include a small section about Cyprus.
-In the Greek tack and field national championships this year(the only National Championship i watched), Cypriot athletes such as Eleni Artymata, Alissa Kallinikiou, etc. competed.
-Marcos Baghdatis did an exhibition match this summer in Athens.
-On skyscrapercity.com, a forum where people talk about business in their countries, there is a forum called the Hellenic Agora, which includes threads and subforums about Greek and Cypriot business.
-In Eurovision, all Cypriot singers ever were from the Greek side. The Cyprus national final is broadcasted in Greece, vice versa. Anna Vissi was born in Larnaca, Cyprus and competed in 3 Eurovisions, 2 for Greece and 1 for Cyprus.
-They have the same popular singers.
-In some Olympiads, there are Cypriot athletes that compete under the Greek flag. In the 2008 Olympics, I was in Greece and I saw frequent coverage and interviews of Cypriot athletes.
-In my church in NY, there are many Cypriots(it is a Greek-Orthodox church). In the Greek afternoon school, the kids learn about Cyprus and Greece. At our annual Hellenic Festival, they have a secton called the Cyprus Corner, where they sell different Cypriot foods. Kids at the school also learn traditional Greek and Cypriot dances. When people ask the Greek-Cypriots what nationallity they are in my neighborhood(e.g.my friends), they all say that they are Greek, and nothing else.) In the EuroCup, they all wore Greek jerseys, like the Australia based Hellas Fan Club, which most of you here probably know about already.
-On yahooanswers.com, in the Greece section, there is also discussion about Cyprus.
-The Greek national football team occasionally plays friendly matches in Cyprus, against teams other than Cyprus. I think 2 years ago they played Kazakhstan.
-Before 1974, Cypriot sports clubs played in the Greek championships. I don't recall if it was every sport, since I wasn't around back then, but I know for a fact that it was definetely with volleyball.
-On Greeksoccer.com, they have forums for both Greek and Cypriot football teams, and SubForums for other leagues(e.g.English,Spanish,Argentine,French,Itali an,German,Turkish, etc.). They even have a Baghdatis thread, a Cyprus invasion thread, Cyprus politics, etc.
-In New York's annual GreekIndependenceDayParade on 5th avenue, there are Cypriot foundations that march, as well as people waving American,Greek, and Cypriot flags.

I think I explained it enough.

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He will be fine, Greek boys are taught how to deal with drunk Brit women from an early age, its like a mandatory summer course here.
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Re: Hellenic Forum?

Also, on tennisforum.com, I recently joined a game called WCTT and in Hopman Cup I am competing for Greece using Marcos Baghdatis and Eleni Daniilidou.

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Re: Hellenic Forum?

Hell no

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Re: Hellenic Forum?

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It will include the current threads:
-Photos Kallias
-Dimitris Kleftakos
-Paris Gemouchidis
-Vasilis Mazarakis
-Konstantinos Economidis
-Alexander Jakupovic
All these are crappy players. They don't deserve a seperate forum.

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This possible forum will include a seperated forum for Marcos Baghdatis attached to it.
The only worth-mentioning player is Baghdatis. Baghdatis is Cypriot, not Greek. He may be Greek-Cypriot, but still Cypriot.

The truth is, we can't ignore the Turkish-Cypriots. So, to answer your question, I would say no, definitely not, for political, social, moral and humanitarian reasons.
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Kostas kastoria as a moderator, don't forget it

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Hellas Must Get His Auto Subforum!! And Kostas Kostidis For The Moderation So He Can Habe More Power In His Hands.
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Hellas Must Get His Auto Subforum!! And Kostas Kostidis For The Moderation So He Can Habe More Power In His Hands.
Xristos would be absolutely delighted to help Kostas Kastoria. As a vice-mod of course.
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All these are crappy players. They don't deserve a seperate forum.



The truth is, we can't ignore the Turkish-Cypriots. So, to answer your question, I would say no, definitely not, for political, social, moral and humanitarian reasons.
1st, it doesn't matter if they aren't the best players on tour. It is partially based on fan support whether or not you have a forum.

2nd, like I said, skyscrapercity.com has a forum called the Hellenic Agora, and it is for threads on Greece and Cyprus. Also, once again...there has NEVER EVER EVER been a Turkish-Cypriot athlete that plays for Cyprus-they all play for Turkey, so really you can't say that.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Gr...iots_in_Cyprus

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Re: Hellenic Forum?

I voted "yes" because there are many Greek members on MTF and so far the only place where they can go is Kostas Kastoria thread, where the events from Greek tennis are discussed. We also must remember we have many respected Greek posters on this forum who live in other countries, for example Xristos or Merton, we should also think about them.

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I voted "yes" because there are many Greek members on MTF and so far the only place where they can go is Kostas Kastoria thread, where the events from Greek tennis are discussed. We also must remember we have many respected Greek posters on this forum who live in other countries, for example Xristos or Merton, we should also think about them.
Polish players could leave the "rest of the world" and be included where?
a) Germany
b) Czech Republic
c) Slovakia
d) Ukraine
e) create a Baltic forum


We also have fabulous Polish posters in MTF

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What is your problem? Why should it be added to Germany?

Baltic or Slavic is okay as for me. I'd like to get in touch with other Polish posters, like DATS or mtw. I think they should be encouraged to post more.

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What is your problem? Why should it be added to Germany?

Baltic or Slavic is okay as for me. I'd like to get in touch with other Polish posters, like DATS or mtw. I think they should be encouraged to post more.
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Hellenic is not the same as Greek, this is why I don't see a problem for Baghdatis added there, just like I see no problem in having Polish players in a Slavic or Baltic forum.

Getta is a native Greek and she sees a problem, she has a right to give her opinion, and other people have the right to give their opinion; all I know is Greeks are very devoted tennis fans even though their tennis sucks. Fortunately there are young hopes such as Xristos and Kostas Kastoria - as Getta correctly mentioned these two should take care of moderation of the forum.

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We also must remember we have many respected Greek posters on this forum who live in other countries, for example Xristos or Merton, we should also think about them.
Merton stopped posting on MTF.

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Hellenic is not the same as Greek, this is why I don't see a problem for Baghdatis added there, just like I see no problem in having Polish players in a Slavic or Baltic forum.
What are you talking about, Nathii?

"Hellenic" means "Greek". I'm a Greek citizen. "Hellenic Republic" is written on my passport, not "Greek Republic".

"Hellenic" and "Greek" are two words synonyms.

Anyway, I suspect that many MTF members want desperately a clownish forum, just like the clownish Kostas Kastoria's thread. Then, that's fine with me.
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